Anyone who doubts that Hizbullah is a Shi`ite sectarian party, should read this lousy statement by the party in defense of Grand Ayatullah Sistani--the biggest help to the American occupation of Iraq, more than `Allawi and Chalabi combined. The text of the statement is so reverentially phrased: it talks about Sistani and adds: "may his shadow last." The man does not even have a shadow: he donated it to the American occupation of the country. It states that harming Sisistani is like harming the party. There is no theory to explain this except the requirements of Shi`ite sectarian solidarity.
WOW. Sistani was the "biggest help" to the American occupation of Iraq, according to the clueless professor in California. How did this schmuck become a professor?? Did Sistani help Americans by promoting peace and repeatedly calling for an end to violence? Yes he did.
Or did Sistani help the American "occupation" by forbidding violent reprisals as Sunni Arab terrorists continue to mass murder Iraqis? Yes he did!
Sistani is the top Shia cleric who called for unity and said in 2007: "I appeal to you to leave aside your divisions with your Sunni brothers."
But As'ad Abu Khara has never mentioned Sistani's efforts to end the violence in Iraq.
Yes Sistani did help Americans to stabilize Iraq by encouraging the Shia to not attack innocent Sunni Arabs, even as Sunni Arab terrorism continues. Was that wrong of Sistani to do? Or is As'ad Abu Khara and the Sunni Arabs still pissed that Sistani, with his great influence in Iraq, did not call on the Iraqi Shia to kill Americans? Boo hoo, As'ad Abu Khara! Americans liberated Iraq (albeit 12 years late) when most Sunni Arabs wanted to see Iraqis to continue living under the Sunni boot of tyranny.
Americans hunted down the mass murderer of Iraqis and put him on trial for crimes against humanity. Americans stuck around to ensure that democracy, or a semblance of one, was established in Iraq as Sunni extremists tried to destroy it. Americans trained Iraqi security forces and helped Iraqis defeat a nasty Sunni insurgency that was willing to kill dozens of Iraqi children in order to kill one American.
Sunni Arab extremists (the "resistance") continue to mass murder Iraqis several months after US troops withdrew from Iraqi cities. The "resistance" is still trying to destroy democracy in Iraq. They still fight "occupation" by mass murdering Iraqis. But As'ad Abu Khara does not condemn the murderers. Instead he bitches about "occupation" and condemns the cleric who called for peace and unity in Iraq. These are our Arab "brothers". It makes me sick!
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I suppose Sistani should have told the Americans to stay away, so that Iraqis could continue to live happily under Saddam. LOL
But your "mujahideen" DID mass murder Iraqis, which forced America to stay in Iraq and eliminate the hmar el urduni and other murderous 3arab jarab.
Saturday, January 9, 2010 4:05:00 PM PST
Oh nooooo stupid,you got it all wrong. Arabs did not force American to stay in Iraq, America invaded Iraq and nobody is forcing her to stay there. America can get out anytime she wants and withdraw her terrorist army of white protestant extremists out of the country. Nobody is asking America to stay stupid. The only people who want America to stay are the puppets who need her protection and are afraid of their own people and the resistance that will tear them to pieces as soon as the US terrorist army gets out. You are so stupid, but I understand. You do not speak Arabic and have never been to Iraq and rely on the mossad-run memri for your information so your stupidity makes alot of sense.
Baghdad in 2000: "A woman known as Um Haydar was beheaded reportedly without charge or trial at the end of December 2000. She was 25 years' old and married with three children. Her husband was sought by the security authorities reportedly because of his involvement in Islamist armed activities against the state. He managed to flee the country. Men belonging to Feda'iyye Saddam came to the house in al-Karrada district and found his wife, children and his mother. Um Haydar was taken to the street and two men held her by the arms and a third pulled her head from behind and beheaded her in front of the residents. The beheading was also witnessed by members of the Ba'ath Party in the area. The security men took the body and the head in a plastic bag, and took away the children and the mother-in-law. The body of Um Haydar was later buried in al-Najaf. The fate of the children and the mother-in-law remains unknown."
But the 3arab jarab wanted Iraqis to continue living with Saddam and the 3arab jarab, lest the 3arab jarab mass murder Iraqis in even greater numbers. You are right, ghebby, we shoulda stuck with the slimy Sunni cockroach 3arab jarab.
The "resistance" prolonged the occupation
I see that a few 3arab jarab are still in denial. I guess I should not be surprised, given their incredible ignorance about Iraq.
That's right, hmar el urduni. Iraqis are sick of Jordanians, Syrians, Saudis, and other 3arab jarab who responded to occupation by mass murdering Iraqis. We are sick of the hypocrite 3arab jarab, especially the Jordanian Jarab.
Should I not condemn the murderous 3arab jarab from my home in California?
Habis is All American
"Habis is All American"
YES. Good memory, Aton. Those old comments on haloscan have been converted to Echo format. I want to revisit those comments and write a post about the interesting ones.
He also pretended to be Arab Advocate for a while. He's used other names.
Wait a sec, the AA who recently visited us was Habis? Is the orginal AA a different person?
Yes I believe the original AA still lives in Texas. This rat Habis lives in Moreno Valley, east of LA. He took over as "Arab Advocate" after the original AA resigned.
Interesting...
The original Arab Advocate said a couple of times that he uses only the name "Arab Advocate" and no other name. I believe him. Habis, however, used "Arab Advocate", "All American" and a few other handles. More than once they posted on the same day.
Maybe he's a double agent. You know how sneaky those Jordanians can be. He might work for Starbucks AND McDonalds.
He probably means that Shaytani issued rulings that collaboration was obligatory; instead of issuing rulings against the occupation.
So this snake was key for the Salibiyeen. Of course, this doesn't absolve the laymen Shia, who ultimately made their own decision to follow Shaytani's fataawa.
May,2008:
"Iraq's most influential Shiite cleric has been quietly issuing religious edicts declaring that armed resistance against U.S.-led foreign troops is permissible — a potentially significant shift by a key supporter of the Washington-backed government in Baghdad.
....So far, al-Sistani's fatwas have been limited to a handful of people. They also were issued verbally and in private — rather than a blanket proclamation to the general Shiite population — according to three prominent Shiite officials in regular contact with al-Sistani....Between 10 and 15 people are believed to have received the new fatwas in recent months, the Shiite officials told the AP.
....It is impossible to determine whether those who received the edicts acted on them. Most attacks — except some by al-Qaida in Iraq — are carried out without claims of responsibility.
All the usual caveats apply here. The purpose of the fatwas is murky, the leakers may have axes to grind we don't know about, and it's a good idea not to overreact to daily news from Iraq.
That said, this ranks fairly high on the worry meter. As badly as the U.S. occupation of Iraq has gone, it would have gone way, way worse if Sistani hadn't cooperated with us. And for the most part he has, mostly by tolerating our presence and refusing to countenance the kind of active resistance favored by Mutqda al-Sadr. But these recent fatwas might be a sign that this is changing. Eric Martin:
Sistani is moving in this direction, at least partially, because of public sentiment and Sadr's ability to capitalize on his anti-American stance. Opposing the American presence is popular. That's not going to change any time soon.
But why now? There has to be some reason not just for the fatwas themselves, but for leaking their existence to the press at this moment in time. Maybe Sistani was feeling the heat from Sadr. Maybe after five years of waiting for us draw down, his patience has finally run out. Or maybe it was just a shot across the bow, a way of telling us that a long-term American presence is not in the cards.
There's no way to know for sure based on this single report. Still, it's probably not too much to say that if Sistani turns openly against us, our continued presence in Iraq will truly become impossible. He may have decided that if we're not going to set a timetable ourselves for leaving, he's going to set one for us. Stay tuned."
"During the [1991] Gulf War Ibn Baaz issued fatwa allowing the deployment of non-Muslim troops on Saudi Arabia soil to defend the Kingdom from the Iraqi army.
The hypocrisy of the half-brained 3arab jarab and the "Muslimeen" is incredible, no?
"Maybe he's a double agent. You know how sneaky those Jordanians can be. He might work for Starbucks AND McDonalds."
LOL!
تعرف عربي، حمار الاردني؟
Your IP address is in Moreno Valley, hmar el urduni. What part of LA do you live in and which Starbucks do you work at?
"During the [1991] Gulf War Saudi cleric Ibn Baaz issued fatwa allowing the deployment of non-Muslim troops on Saudi Arabia soil to defend the Kingdom from the Iraqi army. "
العرب منافقين
Maury said...
Maybe he's a double agent. You know how sneaky those Jordanians can be. He might work for Starbucks AND McDonalds.
Sunday, January 10, 2010 2:45:00 AM PST
Sneaky enough to kill 8 CIA terrorists and a Hashemite traitor working with them. :)
It is embarrassing watching the 3arab jarab praising the killing of "CIA terrorists" while he lives in America. It is embarrassing watching the 3arab jarab praising the "resistance" that mass murders Iraqis.
العرب جرب، منافقين
If you don't mind, I've included your post in the following roundup.
http://globalvoicesonline.org/2010/01/12/iraqsaudia-arabia-the-clerics-war/
Thanks Tarek for explaining the history. I did not know that Saudi clerics were insulting Sistani!
I'm saddened to see how your knowledge of Iraqi "history" can be so one sided Iraqi mojo. As a moderate-Sunni myself, I respected Sistani for trying to preach his beliefs but not imposing them on others. Unfortunately, since the Iraq war started, I have grossly miscalculated his intentions. I was never a fan of Saddam, so don't mistake me for an anti-Shia commentator. Yet, when Sistani "ordered" his "followers" to make the Iraqi government completely void of Sunni members, his credibility turned into ignorance when he took the word of a Ahmed Chalabi, who's a notorious theif (stole from his own people) and a double agent who fed the Americans information about Iraq (both Sunni and Shia!!! Don't be fooled, this man's only interest in life is money, and he'll fight his own family to get what he wants!).
Second of all, sistani along with Chalabi are pro-Iranian nationalists. While Sistani supports a constitution informed by Islamic law, he does not support the Khomeinist doctrine that gives clerics a direct role in governance.
It is people like Saddam, Chalabi, Al-Maliki and now sadly, Sistani who have either initiated or have enforced a theocracy is Sunni-Shia revenge-killing.
Don't let your hatred consume you, open your mind to what's REALLY happening in our country. Sadly, while the people of Iran themselves are rejecting their own government, we have sadly welcomed its sinister motives with open arms.
'Yet, when Sistani "ordered" his "followers" to make the Iraqi government completely void of Sunni members, his credibility turned into ignorance when he took the word of a Ahmed Chalabi,'
Did Sistani order his followers to make the Iraqi government completely void of Sunni members? I doubt it. If so, how did Sunni Arabs like Mithal al Alusi and Tareq al Hashemi get into the Iraqi government?
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