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Friday, January 08, 2010
Stop lying, Rudy Giuliani
I hate liars. I have noticed similarities between some conservative American politicians and conservative Arab Muslim politicians. Giuliani is the same man who did business with Qatar. Remember when Sarah Palin talked about "real" Americans? She reminded me of conservative Iraqis who labeled many Iraqis, including myself, as not "real" Iraqis. They all claim to be nationalists and most patriotic to their countries.
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"Remember when Sarah Palin talked about "real" Americans? She reminded me of conservative Iraqis who labeled many Iraqis, including myself, as not "real" Iraqis"
This is not unique to the "right-wing". Don't you remember the leftist kook a few weeks ago who was screaming at you to leave the country for not being a "real American"?
You should read Iraq Pundit's new post...Keith Olbermann is exactly the kind of "journalist" he describes.
Wasn't that Habis al Urduni who was screaming at me to leave the country for not being a real American? Habis al Urduni is an Arab American, one who defended Saddam, still defends the dictator. He is not necessarily a leftist. He's just a Jordanian who hates America while living in America. Habis probably owns a business. He buys Starbucks and Subway. He is an average American of Jordanian descent, if not a Jordanian who came to America in the 80s or 90s, even after the US invaded Iraq in 1991. He is a hypocrite, and there seems to be many of them among the Jordanians. They fled to the country they hate. It does not make sense to me.
He has expressed his support for Saddam, and blames everything on Bush and Cheney, but this does not mean he's a leftist. I wonder if Habis considers himself a leftist.
When did you arrive in America, Habis? Judging by your mastery of the English language, you were likely born in the USA. Does your baba love Saddam too, Habis el Urduni?
I read Iraq Pundit's post for the second time and I do not agree with this: "There is a hell of a lot wrong with Iraq, but it isn't being reported in the mainstream media. They're too busy telling their readers and viewers that Iraq's no good. "
I do not get the message from the media that Iraq is "no good". The NYT reported on the Iraqi parliament's decision to ban Saleh el Mutlaq, and their article seemed to be accurate. Iraq Pundit said that Mutlaq can appeal the decision, and the NYT article suggested that there is room for negotiation. Sounds like they are both right. The Iraqis are deliberating and arguing constitutional law. They are practicing democracy, and they are learning from their mistakes. Where does the NYT or Keith Olbermann say that Iraq's no good?
C.H., if you're thinking of the "Irish American" who asked me to leave America, that was Habis.
I.P., I presume that as an Iraqi American you have a better grip and should have a better grip on the situation in Iraq today, than me as an Australian born Greek.
But it surprises me, not that my understanding is less than yours, but that it seems my understanding is completely ass about to yours when you say...
"They are practicing democracy, and they are learning from their mistakes. "
When I read other Iraqi Diaspora like Layla Anwar, and other alternate source and largely avoid MSM because my stomach turns as they paint Arabs and Muslims in general (even if discretely)as evil bastards; like Olberman's show kept reminding us of some examples..... It seems that Iraq is currently a sectarian shit hole.
Isn't it true that Iranian influenced Shia dominate the political, military, and police structures?
Isn't it true that your US government arranged for this to be so.
I believe I already know the answers to these questions to be 'yes' on both counts and so I'm curious as to why you'd paint Iraq's problems as some sort of democratic teething or a hiccup.
What was once the Cradle of Civilisation has become a shit hole.
Perhaps you should ask yourself why a nation like USA supposedly valuing freedom and happiness would have a convicted drug dealer and illegal arms merchant (pardoned) like Lt Col Oliver North as a foreign policy adviser to the GOP.
In a Democracy there's nothing wrong with being critical of your Gov or nation's action if you see them as wrong IraqiMojo; in fact some argue and believe it to be a patriotic duty.
I'm not religious, but let me remind you, I believe Mosses and Jesus were accused of treason once too.
I'll tell you who I think is a good example of an American Patriot; it may surprise you that as a Greek I'll pick a beautiful and brave Turkish woman who dares to speak the truth, by the name of Sibel Edmonds.
"They fled to the country they hate. It does not make sense to me."
It is common among colonialists. They move to a distant country because there is a chance to make money there, but they intensely dislike the local culture. There were many such in the British Empire.
"Isn't it true that Iranian influenced Shia dominate the political, military, and police structures?
Isn't it true that your US government arranged for this to be so."
Nothing could be further from the truth phoneyid. These Shia politicians are influenced more by Sistani than anyone else. They make regular trips to his living room. Sistani opposes the Iranian system of government. He's a democrat. He thinks clerics belong in the mosque,not in the government.
"What was once the Cradle of Civilisation has become a shit hole."
It became a shit hole under Sadman Insane. Today,Iraq is becoming something else entirely. The country has incredible potential. Freedom and Iraqi's entrepreneurial heritage will unlock that potential. Bet on it.
"They fled to the country they hate. It does not make sense to me."
Me either Mojo. It's like marrying a woman you hate. And talking shit about her while she's in the next room. Who can respect anything these lowlifes say or do?
Mojo, you must be one on the six people who watch Olbermann.
Despite the loud ramblings radical Christians and socialists alike, there are two basic sides every American must choose from.
First, there is the side of the lawyers, who make their living by taking from others, increasing bureaucracy, enabling the forfeiture of private property and adjudicating the redistribution of wealth. Every dollar taken out of the economy for redistribution negatively affects the economy. Instead of people spending their money on goods and services, which create jobs, they are forced to give it to the government who then spends it on itself. The very idea that the federal government can stimulate the economy by spending its citizen’s money is a travesty of logic.
Second, there is the side of business, which creates wealth, jobs, liberty and peace.
"The very idea that the federal government can stimulate the economy by spending its citizen’s money is a travesty of logic."
Isn't that what Reagan did? Isn't that what the US govt did during WWII?
T.V. personalities like Olberman, who profit from ridiculing creationists and by proxy embraces the simplicity of socialism do nothing but act the part of a clown. His moral outrage is ridicules and appears to be nothing more than an act. Creationists wield no real power except the right to vote, and to embrace them as your boogieman is to admit your inability to confront true corruption and our enemies.
"Isn't that what Reagan did?"
No
"Isn't that what the US govt did during WWII?"
Yes
1) This prolonged the depression
2) The war ended the depression
On Reagan:
"There was a massive increase in Cold War related defense spending that caused large budget deficits,[19] the U.S. trade deficit expansion,[19] and contributed to the Savings and Loan crisis,[20] In order to cover new federal budget deficits, the United States borrowed heavily both domestically and abroad, raising the national debt from $700 billion to $3 trillion,[21] and the United States moved from being the world's largest international creditor to the world's largest debtor nation.[22] Reagan described the new debt as the "greatest disappointment" of his presidency.[21]"
Didn't the increased Defense spending contribute to economic growth?
Unfortunately, military spending is a necessary evil in today’s world. It is not a good example of basic economics. We need to spend on defense despite it being bad for the economy. Reagan spending all that money on defense was bad for the economy. Bush liberating Iraq was bad for the economy. Single payer Health Care will destroy the economy.
Let people buy insurance over state lines.
Let people write off the cost of insurance on their tax return.
Let people choose from a diversity of Insurance options.
Tort Reform.
"Isn't it true that Iranian influenced Shia dominate the political, military, and police structures?"
At least 60% of Iraq's population is Shia, so it is natural for an Iraqi democracy to be dominated by Shia. Yes many of them spent years, even decades, in Iran. But not all of them are influenced by Iran. Like in any good democracy, the politicians are listening to their constituents and they understand that Iraqis do not want to be ruled by Iran. Ammar al Hakim recently told the media that his party is not an agent of Iran. Ayad Jamal al Din, who also wears a turban, has been blasting Iranian influence in the Iraqi govt for a while now. Many Iraqis criticized Prime Minister Maliki for not reacting quickly to the Iranian incursion into Iraqi territory. Clearly the Iraqi people do not want to be ruled by Iran, and prominent politicians understand this. Hakim's party was popular in 2005. After 4 years of ineffective governance, Hakim's party did not do as well in the provincial elections. Maybe 10% of Iraqis now support Hakim. When Amedinejad visited Iraq, he wasn't even invited to Najaf. Sistani didn't even see him!
Also, as Anand has pointed out before, about one third of the Iraqi Army is Sunni Arab, and there are many Sunni Arab officers in the Iraqi Army. The Financial Times *still* wonders if a military coup is still possible: "One of the main risks to political stability remained the cadre of senior Sunni officers in the Iraqi army with past ties to Saddam's Ba'ath party."
Saddamists like Layla Anwar will not be happy until the Ba3ath retake power and expel and murder tens of thousands of Shia just like Saddam did.
"Isn't it true that your US government arranged for this to be so."
Yes the US government arranged for a democratically elected govt in Iraq, thankfully, but even the US govt could not have everything their way. The US wanted Allawi in charge and put him in charge until the Da3wa party won the election. Also I remember Sistanni stepping in and insisting on one man, one vote.
Iraq is still divided along sectarian lines, but Iraq's Sunni Arabs are participating more in politics these days than in the insurgency, and that is a good thing. There is more democracy in Iraq today than there has been in many decades. Iraq really is the first Arab democracy.
"Mojo, you must be one on the six people who watch Olbermann."
LOL.
I only wish that Olbermann hated Saddam Hussein and the child-killing resistance in Iraq half as much as he hates Bush and Cheney. My criticism of him is not about left or right, socialism or capitalism...its about how grotesque it is for a media figure (who claims to be a journalist btw, lol) to deny success in Iraq when reality is stacked against him. In Olbermann's crazed mind, congratulating Iraqis is akin to praising Bush...it shouldn't be this way.
"Maury is correct" IraqiMojo???
Maury said "Sistani opposes the Iranian system of government. He's a democrat. He thinks clerics belong in the mosque,not in the government."
We're thinking of the same Sistani??
The Iranian born Grand Ayatollah and Twelver Shia Marja?
Oh yea.... a real secularist.
From a nation that had twice the number of doctors in their hospitals per patient than England to one where people now struggle to get aspirin... Where millions of Iranians are brought in to vote and displaced Sunni and Christian Iraqis are shunned, the place is a sectarian shit hole.
Only when contrasted to 'liberated' Afghanistan can anyone possibly view Iraq a some sort of blossoming democracy.
Next you guys will be parroting Madeline Albright when she was speaking of the 1/2Million Child Deaths during the US lead Iraqi embargoes,,, and while you're discussing the MILLION+ killed Iraqis since the invasion you'll say "It's worth it".
What a crime against humanity.
I hope but don't expect that the murdered and maimed and orphaned and widowed Iraqis and anyone's God can forgive me and my children for our nation's (Australia) involvement in this butchery.
Save your pieces of silver guys; perhaps in the afterlife we can pay for our sins in cash.
Judging by the fact that Phonyid links to a 9/11 "truth" website, he probably doesn't have a clue who is blowing up Iraqis in markets and mosques.
IraqiMojo "The MSM portrays Arabs and Muslims as evil bastards?"
That's a genuine question????
Just to amuse you with a response....
read Dr Jack Shaheen's (Prof Sth Illinois University) book "Reel Bad Arabs" or watch app 1hr video on video.google
eg... Disney's 'great' child's animation "ALADDIN" intro song..... "I come from a land.... where they cut off your ear if they don't like your face, it's barbaric, but hey! it's home"
Try your hand at 'free speech' and make a kids' movie with songs about the sale of illegal body parts in USA and Israel by Rabbi's and see how far it gets you while thinking about what Mel Gibson said to some lone random cop in the middle of nowhere in the middle of the night and the mileage that the so called "ADL" got out of that.
C.H.
"Judging by the fact that Phonyid links to a 9/11 "truth" website, he probably doesn't have a clue who is blowing up Iraqis in markets and mosques."
Invoking 911??
Now who's sounding like Rudy Giuliani???
Let's amuse you too..
see what 9/11 Commissioner Bob Kerrey says about 911 at the following vid at the 6:45 mark...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtJWBcWAeAw
Habis; I'll go out on a limb, as I haven't read anything else you've written, and assume you enjoy a healthy scepticism too.
Perhaps IraqiMojo would like to write an article attributing the severe rise of deformities and miscarriages in Iraq to a change in the type of Parsley they are using to make Tabooli Salad, rather than the 1000 Tons of Uranium USA has dumped on them in the form of "Depleted Uranium Projectiles".
phoneyid,
You are very knowledgable, but you are wrong to think stupid has more information about Iraq than you as an Australian Greek. He is not from Iraq and does not speak the language at all. He does not really know anything about Iraqis and Arabs. He just knows he hates Arabs and loves Bush and Blair and any other foreign invader who might kill Iraqis. He loves those who murder Iraqis and hates those who help the Iraqis resist occupation. If you noticed all he does is repeat American rhetoric and attack Arab culture with references to "honor killings..Suicide bombers...Jihadis.." and other American words.
Layla Anwar is an excellent source to read. I applaud you for finding the credible Iraqi sources. She is actually an Iraqi who lives in her homeland, knows her people, lives among them, and speaks their language and suffers with them. So she is a good source.
Stupid here is just a clown who does not speak Arabic and is not really Iraqi at all.
"read Dr Jack Shaheen's (Prof Sth Illinois University) book "Reel Bad Arabs" or watch app 1hr video on video.google"
I saw Jack Shaheen at CU Boulder in 1990! He is wonderful. I will search for him on google video.
When I read your comment about the MSM, I thought you meant the mainstream news media today. I am always interested when seeing Americans misunderstanding or lying about Arabs and Arab history. I'm sure there are gaffes of biblical proportions on FOX News, and even on MSNBC a few weeks ago Chris Matthews said that Sirhan Sirhan was a "messenger of God", implying that Sirhan was a Muslim. I don't know, maybe Sirhan actually said this, but Chris seemed to attribute Sirhan's murderous actions to Sirhan's beliefs in Islam, when Sirhan was actually a Christian who grew up in So Cal.
But for the most part I do not see the mainstream news media today portraying Arabs as evil. In fact I don't think they do *enough* to show just how horrible some Arabs are, especially the Saudis. They've been doing a much better job since America liberated Iraq, and that's good for Iraqis. Also they've paid more attention to the extraordinary number of "honor" killings, or whatever habis el urduni wants to call them, in Jordan and other Arab communities.
The portrayal of Arabs in movies, on the other hand, is sometimes embarrassing. I mean embarrassing for an American. In Lawrence of Arabia, as Lawrence and his Arab buddies are crossing the desert, he realizes that they've lost one of their comrades, a boy. Musta fell off his horse. The elder Arab in the group casually says it's the will of Allah, and continues riding. Lawrence, the white dude, has to go back and save the Arab boy. Ya riiiiiiight! That's just silly. And that was supposed to be a good movie.
Many Americans may prejudge Arabs based on what they've seen in the news and movies, but the Arabs are not doing much to improve their image in America, it seems. Many of these Arabs who cannot bring themselves to condemn the "resistance" that kills Americans are living in America, and they are not helping either, that's fo sho.
"Invoking 911??
Now who's sounding like Rudy Giuliani???"
It looks like you've released this little gem from your bag of goodies a little too early...all I did was point out that you link to a 9/11 conspiracy aka "truther" website, where societies craziest, most delusional people exchange ideas. Layla Anwar + 9/11 truth...hmmm, I'll let Mojo's readers decide if you're to be taken seriously.
Now if you excuse me, I need to go get some iced coffee from my local coffee shop...Habis should know its A LOT better than Starbucks :P
"That's just silly. And that was supposed to be a good movie."
While I don't know if that really happened, TE Lawrence did accomplish some amazing things. From what I've heard, the director left out some of his accomplishments because if put in the film, they would seem ridiculous to the audience. He was a very determined man.
Phoneyid, I have been reading about DU since reports of higher than usual Iraqi birth deformities were revealed shortly after the 1991 war. I don't remember Arabs rushing to "defend" their Iraqi brothers back then. Instead they were busy applying for visas to America, where many Arabs had already emigrated to.
If you scroll down my blog about halfway you'll see in the sidebar a section called "Sites to Ponder". One of the links is about Depleted Uranium and shows some disturbing images. At the bottom of the list is a link to the World Health Organization, which says that DU does not result in birth deformities. Also in the sidebar is a section called "Consequences of War and Terrorism" and there you will find links to articles about Basra birth defects and Falluja birth defects.
The Arabs have responded to the Falluja birth defects with much greater anger than the news of Basra birth defects in the 90s. This adds to the incredible hypocrisy of the Sunni Arabs and shows how sectarian they are, I believe.
The "resistance" has murdered many times more Iraqis than Americans.
Baghdad Paper
"'Not all the consequences of Islam's great expansive push were as grand, perhaps, as the confluence of some of the world's great intellectual traditions, but they proved at least as vital. One such was the acquisition of the wondrous Chinese technology of paper, an enormous aid to the intellectual enterprise just beginning to take shape at the Abbasid court. Arab tradition tells us that a prisoner of war from the battle of Talas, where in 751 Muslim forces decisively defeated those of the Tang dynasty for control of Turkic western China, brought the art of papermaking to the Central Asian city of Samarkand. The Chinese prisoner taught his captors how to produce paper from linen and hemp. The story itself is most likely apocryphal, but its general account of the flow of paper technology from China and Central Asia to the Arabs still rings true. "
IraqiMojo.
Thank you for the link suggestion, but the little I know about uranium exposure is enough to convince me on the effects of radiation.
Suffice to say that we no longer subject pregnant women to x-rays.
You leave me with a sense of ambiguity on your concerned position as to the effects of D.U. when you emphasise...
"World Health Organization, which says that DU does not result in birth deformities".
Young man, search your soul, swallow your pride and reassess your position on the motives for Anglo-American involvement in the Middle East.
'Ignorance', including mine IMHO is not a sin... to bear false witness and avoid the truth may very well be however.
Watch a video on video.google called "History of Oil" by a comedian (of all things) called Robert Newman.. it's about 45 mins and a bit slow to start...very entertaining and informative.. He is a little "anti-American" but hey!, so is most of the world.
Why even 2 of your biggest allies the Poms and Australians have an old Rhyming Slang term for Americans ...or Yanks... "Septic Tanks"... the premise being that they're full of shit.
A reputation is a hard thing to shake off.
The link to WHO, the World Health Organization, is there to show there are many opposing views. I do not agree with their conclusions.
WHO is an arm of the United Nations and is headquartered in Geneva, Switzerland. It is currently headed by Dr. Margaret Chan, who was born and raised in Hong Kong.
In my third post, published November 4, 2006, I wrote:
"The remainder of Hidden Wars discusses the use of depleted uranium and its horrible effects on Iraqis and US soldiers and their families. I believe that this documentary is so good that I've added a link to hiddenwars.com on my side bar."
Iraqi Mojo, "I have been reading about DU since reports of higher than usual Iraqi birth deformities were revealed shortly after the 1991 war. I don't remember Arabs rushing to "defend" their Iraqi brothers back then."
Then you weren't looking in the right places. I did several television interviews. An interview I did on BBC in 1995, was translated to Arabic on the same day and appeared in Iraqi Newspapers. Also had numerous articles printed in the British press, attended and also spoke at several conferences with Iraqis.
This is part of a speech given by Professor Mona Kammas:
Professor Mona Kammas' speech at the Roundtable Conference London (30th July 1999)...
Depleted Uranium (DU) was used by the Allies in the war for the first time in the history of mankind.
More than 300 tons of DU were used by the allies and still left behind in the region polluting the environment and threatening. Human health by both its radioactivity and high chemical toxicity.
Environmental Research and Studies:
Five areas in Basra province were chosen; Zubair, Safwan, Jabal Sanam, North Rumaila and South Rumaila. Heavy use of DU took place in these areas.
70 out of 124 measurements recorded more than the background (about ten times more, where the natural background in these areas was normally 7 uRh and some readings were up to 184 uRh).
Samples from surface and ground water and sediments in water canals close to the bombarded tanks and military vehicles were collected and tested. 58 of these samples showed increase in radioactive nucleoids and the sediments in Mount Sanam and North Rumaila areas.
61 out of 124 soil samples recorded several times more than the natural background. Some of the samples gave reading of (995-36205 Bq/kg) compared to the natural reading of 70 Bq/kg
About 1718 km of the above mentioned areas are contaminated (Radioactive Contamination).
154 samples (plants and animals) were tested, 36% of them showed radioactive contamination.
The environmental damage was not confined to the bombarded areas but was spread to the whole region and neighbouring countries and the elements of the environment soil. Water air, plants and animals. This widespread pollution has both short and long serious adverse impact on human health, animals and plants. The International Community is also required to provide support to relieve the suffering of the Iraqi people from the most serious deterioration of environmental quality caused by the war and the unjust continuation of the sanctions imposed on Iraq.
Cont.
Medical Research and Studies:
Medical studies for military personnel who were in the battlefield, both in the South of Iraq and Kuwait, during the same period in 1991 showed a high rise in cancer cases of all kinds. The following table illustrates the data for different types of cancer (1425 persons)
The chemical toxicity of DU was also studied. Graduate studies and research carried out at different Iraqi Universities and institutions showed a correlation between DU chemical toxicity and cancer cases.
Congenital anomalies are 3.1 in Basra compared to 1.8 in Iraq as a whole.
Cancer is 5.7 in Misan and 4.3 in Thi-Qar compared to 1.7 in Iraq as a whole.
Substantial changes in the types of cancer were recorded.
High rises in leukaemia, lymphoma, bone cancer were recorded while the average age of cancer patients is lower than before i.e. cases at an early age were recorded contrary to the international standard. Incidence of some types of cancer which were not known or familiar in Iraq previously such as brain and liver cancers had been recorded in increasing numbers
Cellular and physiological changes in some patients were recorded in a large number, which is an indication of being exposed to DU byproducts (causes-effects relationship).
There has been a high rise in hereditary diseases resulting from chromosomal changes such as eye diseases 2.5; Mongoloid children 6.6; change in number and shape of some organs 1.3; shrinkage in the head (or its disappearance) twice the number.
Growth retardation for children of 6 years of age by about (14 months) compared to the normal.
The above mentioned facts are well documented and presented to the international organizations showing the crime of the century against the Iraqi people and their environment.
Mona Kammas is an Iraqi.
Americans may be "embarrassed by the way Americans are portrayed in American movies" but I see little embarrassment of the way Arabs/Muslims etc are portrayed.... by the way I loved Avatar...."fkn Yanks" I kept thinking....
I've seen the portrayal of Arabs dancing on the streets after 911.... a bunch of 'Palestinian' (not recognised by MSWord98) kids numbering in the dozens dancing about God knows what...and I've seen the vid of a stadium FULL of Americans in the 'Zionist'(not recognised by MSWord98) State of America chanting "USA..USA..USA..USA" as a wrestler call "The Sheik"(I believe he's called) tried to make an impassioned plea to halt the killings.
Believe me; I have no aversion to reading what you may call "Anti[certain]-Semite" or "anti-American" web sites; and although I have read many express a desire to turn Arab States into a "slab of glass" I am yet to read of such a desire for the entire USA or Israel.
You know IraqiMojo, there are still a lot of people that don't know about D.U. and it's 'slow sizzle' of Iraq as opposed to an instant "slab of glass"; perhaps more articles should be written by concerned Arab Americans.
I wish I could turn the other cheek to American 'failures'/atrocities as you appear to be so forgiving, while concentrating on Arab 'evils' (to use in the context of an Americanism).
And there I was up to now thinking that the term "evil" was only reserved for vampires and werewolves.
I have written about US culpability before.
In my third post I wrote about my mother's aunt, who died as a result of sanctions. Otherwise none of my relatives have been killed by Americans. Were we supposed to tell the Americans to stay away from Iraq, as Saddam continued to murder innocent starving Iraqis and build more palaces?
Anonymous, I'm sure a few non-Iraqi Arabs protested the use of DU in the 90s. In "Hidden Wars of Desert Storm" an interview is shown with a Jordanian man, who is pissed off about the effects of sanctions. He called it a "genocide". That was nice, but clearly the Arabs in general became much more angry after their hero, the mass murderer of Iraqis, was overthrown. Clearly the Arabs have been much more moved by images of abuse at Abu Ghraib, rather than the 24 years of torture, rape, and murder at Abu Ghraib before 2003. Clearly the Arabs have reacted with greater anger at the news of birth defects in Falluja than the news of birth defects in Basra, a Shia city that Saddam's regime neglected in the 90s while he built dozens of palaces for himself and his clan of murderers and thieves.
Iraqi Mojo "I'm sure a few non-Iraqi Arabs protested the use of DU in the 90s."
I can assure you many Iraqis protested (not just non-Iraqi Arabs) at the use of DU in the 90's. They also protested against sanctions. Sunnis and Christians also lived in Basra. But we know where your preference lies!! An Iraqi is an Iraqi, religion or sect is not important to some Iraqis. Suffering whether it is in Falluja, Basra or anywhere else in Iraq would move any true Iraqi who loves his/her own country and the people of their country.
Anonymous, my original point was that non-Iraqi Arabs did not react to Basra birth defects (the 91 war in general) like they have reacted to Falluja birth defects and the current war and the overthrow of the dictator.
Do you agree that the Arabs in general reacted very differently to the 1991 war than this war?
Greek Australian, you sound like a confused and sad man. You should try and improve your life and I bet you will feel better. Iraqi has a chance to become a free democracy; your anger offers nothing but insight into your affliction.
الامريكي قتل الØمار الاردني
Great video...I turned it into a post over on my blog.
PhoneyID;
Videos of Arabs celebrating 9-11 got very good airtime and very few of the 'stars' were bearded imams or young kids. The clip of that Arab matron going LALALALA with her tongue was particularly harsh on the ears.
Americans are not portrayed very nicely in Arab media either. So you could call it even.
PS: If you're still using Word98 you should leave that cave of yours once in a while
Mojo;
(Sigh ..) ... Arabs killed by other Arabs are not as dead as Arabs killed by non-Arabs. That is what some of these posters are trying to tell you...
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