Sunday, March 14, 2010

Iraqi women miss secularism

This article by Dahr Jamail, an Arab American who did not care about Iraq until Saddam was overthrown, is typical of the Sunni Arab mentality that views secularism in Iraq as something that Saddam invented:

Under Saddam Hussein, women in government got a year's maternity leave; that is now cut to six months. Under the Personal Status Law in force since Jul. 14, 1958, when Iraqis overthrew the British-installed monarchy, Iraqi women had most of the rights that Western women do.

Now they have Article 2 of the Constitution: "Islam is the official religion of the state and is a basic source of legislation." Sub-head A says "No law can be passed that contradicts the undisputed rules of Islam." Under this Article the interpretation of women's rights is left to religious leaders – and many of them are under Iranian influence.

The title of the article is "Women Miss Saddam". Is that really true? Or do Iraqi women simply miss secularism, which existed in Iraq before Saddam made himself President?

113 comments :

Bruno said...

"The title of the article is "Women Miss Saddam". Is that really true? Or do Iraqi women simply miss secularism, which existed in Iraq before Saddam made himself President? "

Does it really matter?

Saddam was the force that kept Iraq secular. When he was eliminated it was virtually inevitable that the religious nuts would take over. Iraq = Iran 2.0

But then, far better to massacre hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and have the religious nutters in power than one more day of Saddam, isn't it?

After all, you are all about sectarian favouritism, and you don't have to personally pay the price for this disaster. Isn't that true, Mojo?

Don Cox said...

Almost anything is better than being ruled by Saddam and his sons.

Are people like Maliki "religious nutters"? Or are they more like the Chritian Democrat party in Germany?

CMAR II said...

Saddam was certainly not secular or even non-sectarian after 1991. The paranoia of his regime required a reliance on his relatives and tribe by default. Saddamism (and all the religious trappings that the Saddam increasingly drapped himself in) was a species of Sunni Arabism. This made his regime by-in-large Sunni Arab.

Fundamentalist imams could receive government support as long as they were Saddamist Sunni. Sunni Arabs were imported from the Levant to live on government largess. The FEDAYEEN SADDAM was a more overtly quasi-religious personality cult than was Hitler's Storm Troopers or Imperial Japan's military culture. They casually and naturally became absorbed in Al Qaeda in Iraq after Saddam and Sons fell.

If you were a government princess like Riverbend living in a fashionable neighborhood, sure you could wear what you liked. Not so outside those enclaves (think if it as Saddam's Green Zones). Secularism in Iraqi Kurdistan bloomed of its own accord after the Al Qaeda groups (that Saddam tolerated and coordinated with) were finally driven out by the US.

Only open identification with Shi'ism, Christianity, and non-Arab ethnicity was repressed by Saddam (the Jews had already been driven out). Christians, Shi'a, and Kurds that proved they were less devoted to their sect or ethnicity than to Saddam's Sunni regime were allowed to participate. Sunni Arabs had no conflicting interests.

Saddam's regime was year-by-year becoming more sectarian and fundamentalist. True, it was all to solidify Saddam's power and not for religion. But the same is true of the regime in Iran. So how was Saddam different?

Iraqi Mojo said...

"Does it really matter?"

Of course it matters, maybe only to Iraqis. 3arab jarab and other anti-American schmucks like to pretend that Saddam was good for Iraq and that all Iraqis miss him. They like to pretend that Saddam brought secularism to Iraq. It is a lie that clueless 3arab jarab will probably repeat until their deaths.


"Saddam was the force that kept Iraq secular."

Other forces could have kept Iraq secular. There were many choices. It appears that in the year 2010 democracy is the force that might bring secularism back to Iraq. Secular Iraqis have voted for secular candidates.

Bruno's comment reminded me of the Iraqi hottie I met in Boston in 2008. She claimed that Saddam made education free in Iraq. I told her that education was always free in Iraq. She said yeah but he kept it that way! LOL! Anybody could have taken over Iraq and maintained secularism and socialism.


"far better to massacre hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and have the religious nutters in power than one more day of Saddam, isn't it?"

That has been the attitude of Al Qaeda and the hardcore Saddamists. Al Qaeda wanted their religious nutters in power. Saddamists wanted the Ba3thi 3arab jarab in power. They both lost.

Iraqi Mojo said...

"It was during the decade of sanctions, as central power weakened, that the fundamentalism and Salafism associated with the insurgency grew roots in Iraq. The works of the Iraqi exile thinker Muhammad Ahmad al-Rashid on jihad and the Islamic state, which were smuggled from Egypt, gained a following, but more important, the tentacles of fundamentalist and Salafist trends popular elsewhere in the region began to penetrate the country.

The Muslim Brotherhood, with its strong presence in Jordan and Syria and affiliation with the Wahhabi establishment in Saudi Arabia, established itself in the Sunni regions of western Iraq that border on Jordan and Syria, and is today entrenched in the Iraqi Islamic Party. Firebrand preachers such as the Egyptian Hamid Kashk and the Syrian Mahmoud Qoul Aghassi (also known as Abu Qaqaa) were popular with Iraqi Sunnis even before the war., and copies of their sermons became ubiquitous in Sunni towns afterward. Throughout the decade of anti-Saddam sanctions, Jordanian mosques remained concerned with the plight of ordinary Iraqis and raised funds that were disbursed through mosque networks in Iraq. Also active in Iraq were Islamic activists such as Laith Shubailath of Jordan and extremist Salafist activists – some with close ties to al-Qaeda – such as Muhammad al-Maqdisi, who is a friend and by some accounts one of Zarqawi's mentors. Before the war topped the Saddam regime, extremists from everywhere would come to the Jordanian-Iraqi border towns to buy weapons smuggled out of Iraq. Trade in weapons created ties that straddled boundaries and gave extremists contacts and allies inside Iraq, and in turn made it possible for the growing insurgency in that country to spread across the region.

Extremist activists had an incentive to move into Iraq. The were losing ground to the more moderate main body of the Muslim Brotherhood in Jordan and were often hounded by Jordanian or Syrian security forces. Their activism over the decade leading to the Iraq war not only introduced fundamentalist thinking in al-Anbar but also created organizational links that would facilitate the insurgency after the war. In fact, Zarqawi's emergence as a force so soon after the war reveals the extent of involvement of Jordanian Salafis in Iraq. Extremist ties between Jordan and Iraq ran in both directions. The flight of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi exiles and refugees to Jordan and Syria has only expanded the opportunity for building extremist networks that cut across national boundaries. The extremism that was exported to Iraq before and during the war, strengthened and radicalized, spread back into Jordan. The same ties also made developments in Iraq directly relevant to Islamic activism in Syria and Saudi Arabia."

–Vali Nasr, The Shia Revival

JG said...

I guess the point here is that women did better pre-2003, and that needs to be addressed.

Habis said...

Women did better. Men did better. Youth did better. Workers did better. Peasants did better. Students did better. The elderly did better. The cities did better. The villages did better. All Iraqis did better. They lived in a wonderful society. It was so good the imperialist powers had to destroy it.

Well destroy they did, and destroyed it will remain until Iraq returns to the Iraqi people.

The past two days have been pretty good for the resistance. About a dozen police have been killed, and a few American terrorist soldiers also.

Dolly said...

Very strange pathological obsession with Saddam, on the part of warmongers in U.S. and UK

And their advertised reasons for hating Saddam Husayn are obviously fake,

because they used to advocate "nuking Irag" [sic] and killing every "Wrag head" [sic],

and now they claim to hate Saddam because he: "killed his own people™ "


So then, what is the true root of their hatred? Good question.

My guess is: most of these warmongers are just nobodies, so they will hate an extraordinary person

Whatever Saddam was, he was definitely not Joe Shmoe with a mortgage.

Anonymous said...

Whatever Saddam was, he was definitely not Joe Shmoe with a mortgage.

3/15/10 6:27 PM

lol

Nor was he "Joe The Plumber"
Americans are so fucking stupid.

CMAR II said...

I guess the point here is that women did better pre-2003, and that needs to be addressed.

What women? Women afraid their families would be jailed and executed if the they accidentally *dreamed* something contrary to Saddam's regime? Executed by slow-hanging if they said something Saddam considered personally insulting to him or his family?

How about the girls raped and murdered by Qusay Hussain? Were they better off?

Those rape rooms were official tools of state. They weren't the invention of an aberrant serial killer or criminal militias. That's not just a dangerous situation. It's hopeless.

Do you really believe that was WORTH the ability of certain Arab women to walk in jeans in a FEW places in Baghdad?

JG said...

Enjoy that ice-cold Koolaid, CMARII, you laughable buffoon.

Iraqi Mojo said...

The Ba3thi elite did much better before 2003, that's for sure.

Iraqi Mojo said...

"The past two days have been pretty good for the resistance. About a dozen police have been killed, and a few American terrorist soldiers also."

The brave Arab resistance took a break from murdering Iraqi kids and killed US soldiers? When, where and how? All I read about was an accident that killed two Americans.

Iraqi Mojo said...

Some women did worse before 2003:

"A woman known as Um Haydar was beheaded reportedly without charge or trial at the end of December 2000. She was 25 years' old and married with three children. Her husband was sought by the security authorities reportedly because of his involvement in Islamist armed activities against the state. He managed to flee the country. Men belonging to Feda'iyye Saddam came to the house in al-Karrada district and found his wife, children and his mother. Um Haydar was taken to the street and two men held her by the arms and a third pulled her head from behind and beheaded her in front of the residents. The beheading was also witnessed by members of the Ba'ath Party in the area. The security men took the body and the head in a plastic bag, and took away the children and the mother-in-law. The body of Um Haydar was later buried in al-Najaf. The fate of the children and the mother-in-law remains unknown."

Anonymous said...

The brave Arab resistance took a break from murdering Iraqi kids and killed US soldiers? When, where and how? All I read about was an accident that killed two Americans.

3/15/10 8:35 PM

Of course stupid. Remember you are the one too stupid to speak or read Arabic. Stupid idiots like you would not have any information. That is normal stupid. Since when have you been informed? Memri does not cover resistance operations stupid. Remember this is why you are stupid.

Iraqi Mojo said...

You mean Arab "news sources" told you the resistance killed US soldiers?

The real news that Arabs are evidently not getting:

"A CAR bomb exploded in the Iraqi city of Falluja yesterday, killing eight and wounding 21.

The majority of casualties were workers who had gathered in the hope of being hired for a day’s casual labour. This was the first major attack since multiple bombings in Baghdad killed 38 on the morning of the March 7th parliamentary election."

Your brave resistance murdered more ordinary Iraqis, Habis, and that is quite par for the course for the shit-for-brains 3arab jarab.

Iraqi Mojo said...

Saddamists killed Iraqis before 2003 and after 2003. The only difference is that more people are paying attention now.

Iraqi Mojo said...

"US military: 2 soldiers die in Iraq in accident
(AP) – 6 days ago

BAGHDAD — The U.S. military says two American soldiers have died in a vehicle accident in Iraq."

Wow, Habis. That's some resistance!

Habis, are the Jordanian jarab good at math? In 2010 how many times more Iraqis as US soldiers has the brave Arab resistance killed?

Bruno said...

cox "Almost anything is better than being ruled by Saddam and his sons."

Almost anything is better than being a brainless twat killing people for their own good.

Bruno said...

mojo "3arab jarab and other anti-American schmucks like to pretend that Saddam was good for Iraq and that all Iraqis miss him."

American warmongers like to pretend that they are actually empowered to speak for Iraqis and actually know what real Iraqis want. They feel entitled to advocate the killing of any Iraqi that doesn't want what they want, because that Iraqi is by definition (their definition) anti-Iraqi and anti American. I reference the idiotic "Cox" and his statements.

bruno "far better to massacre hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and have the religious nutters in power than one more day of Saddam, isn't it?"
mojo "That has been the attitude of Al Qaeda and the hardcore Saddamists."

Mojo can thank America for the Al Qaedists. And of course Iraqis are going to resist occupation. Unlike you, Mojo, the rest of your countrymen have dispalyed a frankly astounding spirit and will to freedom in fighting the foreign invader. I wonder what went wrong with you.

Bruno said...

cmar "How about the girls raped and murdered by Qusay Hussain?"

How about the girls raped by US soldiers?

How about the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis killed by your murderous goons at arms?

If it was CMAR coming home to find his family butchered by a bunch of louts, he wouldn't be so tough.

Iraqi Mojo said...

"Mojo can thank America for the Al Qaedists."

Another Caucasian cockaroach telling an Iraqi he can "thank" somebody for bringing death and destruction to Iraq. It is clear to me you cockaroaches have never cared about ordinary Iraqis who just want to live normal lives. Like the cockroach 3arab jarab, you only care for Iraqis who kill Americans.

Iraqi Mojo said...

" And of course Iraqis are going to resist occupation. "

It seems the 3arab jarab have been resistance democracy more than occupation. It seems the "resistance" has killed at least 20 times as many Iraqis as Americans.

Iraqi Mojo said...

"Unlike you, Mojo, the rest of your countrymen have dispalyed a frankly astounding spirit and will to freedom in fighting the foreign invader."

LOL! Bruno, do you view Iraq through the eyes of the resistance like the 3arab jarab do? Do you think the resistance is all Iraqi and they kill only US soldiers? OMG you and the 3arab jarab really are quite lame.

The Ba3thi 3arab jarab have been mass murdering Iraqis since the 60s. Saddam got his start murdering Iraqis as an employee (or contractor or subcontractor) of the CIA. And you and the 3arab jarab love Saddam, thought he was good for Iraq. How symbolic!


"I wonder what went wrong with you."

I do not enjoy harming innocent Iraqis. I like democracy, peace, and prosperity for Iraq.

Muhannad said...

So Bruno and our Arab "brothers" spoke up only after American soldiers raped and killed Iraqis. How appropriate!

Anonymous said...

so what'ya think iraqi bitch boy ? you thinks that iraqi women are gonna miss you instead ? lol. once an asshole always an asshole.

Anand said...

This article is a new low for the Saddamist Sadist Dahr Jamail. Is he competing for a cell adjacent to the lucifer loving Saddam in the 7th lowest level of Jahannum?

For years Dahr campaigned as hard as he could for the murder of the Iraqi Army and Iraqi Police. Dahr lost. The Iraqi Army and Iraqi Police won.

Soon the Iraqi Army will be the highest quality military ever fielded in the Arab world; and there will be nothing that Dahr and his fellow resistance scum can do about it.

Dahr deep down in his heart knows this. Dahr knows that he isn't a tenth the man that the soldiers in the Iraqi Army are. Hence his uncontrolled jealousy and hate.

Mojo supports the Iraqi Army. Notice how this drives anti Iraqi racists mad.

Habis said...

Iraqimojo you are not Iraqi and you dot speak for them you stupid American. I know that becaue unlike you I do speak Arabic and understand what they say when they are speaking. That is how I know what they really think.

Anand said...

Habis, why don't you learn the real ground truth from the lions who serve in the Iraqi Army.

You could learn a lot from them. They are real men. Soon they will be the highest quality army in Arab history.

Mojo supports the lions in the Iraqi Army?

Do you support the Iraqi Army Habis? You would be wise to support them. So would Jordan, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Gulf States, and Egypt. Embrace this new emerging regional superpower. Reach out to it.

gilgamesh X said...

Iraqimojo you are not Iraqi and you dot speak for them you stupid American. I know that becaue unlike you I do speak Arabic and understand what they say when they are speaking.

you are just a fucking jarabstani fascist !!!

we speak Iraqi with words you never heard of. so do not pretend to understand Iraqis - our Iraqi tongue is far better than your artifical Jarabstani.

when the first Arabs entered Iraq, we Iraqis called them serseri, serseri, that is what you are.

Now try to find this out, you are so keen of Jarabstani language and Iraq - so tell what does that mean.

Iraqi Mojo knows this for sure because after all, we are Iraqis and not Lebanese.


Next time , I will tell you what is the difference between an Iraqi and a Levantine Jarabstani

Habis said...

Oh not another one of those clowns. Stupid seems to attract all the scum of the earth. So tell me gilgamesh, what are you? Babylonian? Sumerian? You speak Iraqi? What's that?

walak ya ghebby, ya gawad, ya ibn al gahbeh, ana ma bafham arabi? mojo il amreeki bihki arabi? inchab ya kalb ya ibn al siteen alf manyooki. kus umak ala airee ya ibn al sharmoota. walak inta wahad khasees w nathil. yalan abuk ala abul nafathak. inchab!

Anonymous said...

Stupid, like I told you before you do not know what Iraqis think or say because you do not understand them. You are an American who does not speak Arabic. This clown will not change that fact. Why not take stop sitting behind a screen shouting at arabjarab and go learn Arabic. That way you can understand what Iraqis say and not have to rely on memri or cnn.

gilgamesh X said...

ana ma bafham arabi

that proves you are from Lebanon or Syria. No Iraqi would use "bafham" that is typically Levantine.

so much to your 3rooqa. and you can insult me in your jarabstani but you have not answered what does Iraqi "serseri" mean ? You do not know , yeah because only Iraqis know this.

and knowing some swear words from Iraq doesn't proof you are from Iraq.


and next time you insult me, please just in Iraqi, I don't understand your faggy Lebanese dialect, ya ibn al-qandarah, umek mu barbuk u abuk xanith.

and if you are Jarabstani, you can leave Lebanon and go back to your homeland: the dessert of Su3udi Jarabstan, I mean, you are an Arab ?

I am an Iraqi, my ancestors always lived in Iraq and never left that Holy Country - qiblatna haye hiya Baghdad wa mu jarabstan al - qabee7a. We are Natives of the land between the two great rivers - just like the Sumerians called their country "ken-gir" that means "homeland".

Jarabstanis like you do not know the idea of a home land. that is why you find Syrians everywhere, even in South America or Haiti. Just go back to your tent and save us with your cheap agitpop propaganda.

Next time you look at a watch, remember that hours and minutes were invented by my and Mojo's ancestors, the Sumerians.

Last but not least: what is the difference between an Iraqi and an Egyptian / Syrian / Palestinian / Lebanese or Jordanian ?

If you slap an Egyptian / Syrian / Palestinian / Lebanese or Jordian in his face, he will say: Thanks. An Iraqi would never do this, because we have sheref and we are the mother of all civilizations.

this is a true self-image of Iraqis, among Iraqis of various political or religious views.

so bye bye jarabstani, bye bye Arab nation. You are just a hollow Fata Morgana.

gilgamesh X said...
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gilgamesh X said...

ana ma bafham arabi

that proves you are from Lebanon or Syria. No Iraqi would use "bafham" that is typically Levantine.

so much to your 3rooqa. and you can insult me in your jarabstani but you have not answered what does Iraqi "serseri" mean ? You do not know , yeah because only Iraqis know this.

and knowing some swear words from Iraq doesn't proof you are from Iraq.


and next time you insult me, please just in Iraqi, I don't understand your faggy Lebanese dialect, ya ibn al-qandarah, umek mu barbuk u abuk xanith.

and if you are Jarabstani, you can leave Lebanon and go back to your homeland: the dessert of Su3udi Jarabstan, I mean, you are an Arab ?

I am an Iraqi, my ancestors always lived in Iraq and never left that Holy Country - qiblatna haye hiya Baghdad wa mu jarabstan al - qabee7a. We are Natives of the land between the two great rivers - just like the Sumerians called their country "ken-gir" that means "homeland".

we are Iraqis, the products of our country, I never pretended to be a Neo-Babylonian, but Jarabstanis like you pretend that all the people between the Ocean and the Gulf are from one country and speak the same language. When will you jarabize Alaska to Al-Aska ?

Jarabstanis like you do not know the idea of a home land. that is why you find Syrians everywhere, even in South America or Haiti. Just go back to your tent and save us with your cheap agitpop propaganda.

Next time you look at a watch, remember that hours and minutes were invented by my and Mojo's ancestors, the Sumerians.

Last but not least: what is the difference between an Iraqi and an Egyptian / Syrian / Palestinian / Lebanese or Jordanian ?

If you slap an Egyptian / Syrian / Palestinian / Lebanese or Jordian in his face, he will say: Thanks. An Iraqi would never do this, because we have sheref and we are the mother of all civilizations.

this is a true self-image of Iraqis, among Iraqis of various political or religious views.

so bye bye jarabstani, bye bye Arab nation. You are just a hollow Fata Morgana.

gilgamesh X said...

and that is my last but not least: If your mother would have then 5 bucks , cheapier, you would speak Iraqi tongue and call me Dad.

Apostate said...

"American warmongers like to pretend that they are actually empowered to speak for Iraqis and actually know what real Iraqis want."

The only way to find out what Iraqis want is through free elections, Bruno. And they have voted overwhelmingly for candidates who supported the US invasion to overthrow the tyrant you wish the Iraqis had supported. So all your huffing and puffing are just farts in the wind. Your side lost - get used to it.

Bruno said...

"Mojo can thank America for the Al Qaedists."
"Another Caucasian cockaroach telling an Iraqi he can "thank" somebody for bringing death and destruction to Iraq."

1: Stick your fingers in your ears
2: Hum
3: Repeat: the Suuuunnnnniiii did it! the Suuuunnnnniiii did it! a thousand times.

It will help you ignore the facts.

"never cared about ordinary Iraqis who just want to live normal lives."

Sure I did. That's why I opposed the invasion. Because I figured that most Iraqis would rather try and live normal lives than be subjected to years of rape, murder and bombardment.

"you only care for Iraqis who kill Americans."

Bullshit. There are many ways to resist, not all of them violent. YOU only care for the driller-killers, it seems to me.

"It seems the 3arab jarab have been resistance democracy more than occupation"

Assuming you can call "democracy" a system whereby the largest political party in Iraq has been banned through force. Well, sure, you and that creeping cretin Aton (whose main function is making morons feel intelligent) might, but in actual fact that is not democracy.

"Saddam got his start murdering Iraqis as an employee (or contractor or subcontractor) of the CIA."

You're not allowed to mention that. That's too close to thanking America for the AL Qaedists and the invasion.

"you and the 3arab jarab love Saddam, thought he was good for Iraq."

1: No.
2: He was better than this mass-murder that the Americans kicked off

Bruno said...

Gilgamesh: "If you slap an Egyptian / Syrian / Palestinian / Lebanese or Jordian in his face, he will say: Thanks. An Iraqi would never do this"

That is true! Iraqis have a lot of spirit. Look at the way they resisted the overwhelming force of the invader for so long. Iraqis filled entire graveyards with the invader, and turned square kilometres of US soil into resting places for destroyed military vehicles. *applauds*

What did you do, Gilgamesh?

Anonymous said...

Gilgamesh ibn al zafra, i will tell u what serseri means. it means all the huthala like you who pretend to be iraqis and can't speak arabic ya jarbo3, ya pusht, ya ibn al barbooga.now you translate that into german ya jayef ibn al jayfa.

Iraqi Mojo said...

Apparently Bruno hasn't noticed that the "resistance" (criminal 3arab jarab) have filled Iraq's graveyards with the corpses of Iraqi youth. Criminal 3arab jarab have killed 20+ times as many Iraqis as Americans, but all Bruno and Habis see is "resistance" to the occupier.

Iraqi Mojo said...

habis, lek inta akbar mu6y w akbar munafiq. shjab el 3arab jarab el amreeka, met guli??

Iraqi Mojo said...

zmal el urduni, ani ma a7chi falas6eezy.

shwakit nikhlus min el 3arab jarab, el munafiqeen el mujrimeen? min 6a7 7adhkum ya 3arab jarab.

Iraqi Mojo said...

"He was better than this mass-murder that the Americans kicked off"

So the stupids of the world really believe Americans have been mass murdering Iraqis? You don't realize it was Saddamists and other 3arab jarab who've bombed Iraqi cafes, universities, bus stations, markets, police stations, etc.?

Iraqi Mojo said...

"the Suuuunnnnniiii did it!"

The Saddamist & Wahhabi 3arab jarab mass murdered Iraqis. The Saddamists had decades of experience in this area before 2003. I guess I shouldn't expect the America-hating leftists and 3arab jarab to acknowledge this fact.

Iraqi Mojo said...

"Iraqis have a lot of spirit."

Wow Bruno said something I agree with. Yes it is quite amazing how Iraqis were determined to vote, despite the threats of murder and terrorism from the cockroach 3arab jarab.

Your resistance cannot kill the Iraqi spirit, no matter how many car bombs and suicide bombers they throw at the Iraqi people.

Iraqi Mojo said...

"I know that becaue unlike you I do speak Arabic and understand what they say when they are speaking. That is how I know what they really think."

And what are the 3arab jarab on TV saying these days? Are they telling their shit-for-brains fans that the brave muqawama has been killing American Crusaders? Are they not telling you about the car bombs that kill and maim ordinary Iraqis? Tell us, hmar el urduni, what you are seeing and hearing on Jarab TV.

gilgamesh X said...

Gilgamesh ibn al zafra, i will tell u what serseri means. it means all the huthala like you who pretend to be iraqis and can't speak arabic ya jarbo3, ya pusht, ya ibn al barbooga.now you translate that into german ya jayef ibn al jayfa.

wrong answer, you still didn't answer what serseri means, ya edepsiz!

Oh, it feels great knowing so many Jarabstanis wanna be Iraqis , but they aren't.

Of course, Iraqi Mojo can give you the right answer, what serseri means, because WE are Iraqis, and not Jarabstanis.


and Bruno , I fight for Iraq, too, but on another front, is that okay for you, Chomsky II ?

Iraqi Mojo said...

I would say "serseri" is a bit mild in describing the Jordanian jarab.

Habis said...

This place gets better everyday! ROFLMAO.

Gilgamesh, you will fit right in with the circus around here.

I have not seen this act in a long time. I really need to come back down to earth. Even by the standards of this blog you are one stupid motherfucker.

I never said I was Iraqi, but I said I speak Arabic and therefore I understand what Iraqis say when they say it because Iraqis speak Arabic. Saying they do not speak Arabic is just plain delusional. 90% of Iraqis are Arab and even the 10% that are not speak Arabic also along with their own language.

If you think "serseri" is an Iraqi word you are just as stupid as the stupid mojo who is not Iraqi but just another stupid American who does not speak any language other than American english.

Finally if you think you can slap a Jordanian why not come try to slap me and see what happens to you.

I can easily insult Iraqis but I will not do that. Do you know why? Because they are my Iraqi Arab brothers and they would not speak to me as you do and I would never attack them as you have attacked other Arabs. You are not from any part of the Arab homeland. You are not Iraqi, not Arab, not part of anyone in this area.

You are just a small small person, full of hate and ignorance and if you were to ever show your face in front of me I would not only slap it, but also spit on it.

Habis said...

Iraqi Mojo said...
I would say "serseri" is a bit mild in describing the Jordanian jarab.

3/17/10 9:31 AM

Stop trying to pose as someone who speaks Arabic. You do not speak Arabic. You are embarassing.

Habis said...

and Bruno , I fight for Iraq, too, but on another front, is that okay for you, Chomsky II ?

3/17/10 9:23 AM

Sure Gilgamesh you and stupidmojo are both part of that same brave fighting force that sits on their asses behind a computer searching blogs that have Arab commentors so you can call them names and use curse words over and over and over again. Now that is what I call a significant contribution to Iraq and the Iraqi people.

How about we call you guys the Blathering Babylonian Battalions. ha ha ha.

Habis said...

Gilgamesh

Where do you live? I am in Los Angeles and if you are anywhere in Southern California maybe we can meet in person. I want to show you how an arabjarab can slap you and spit on you without you being able to respond.

walak ya kalb. inti itmid eedak ala arabi? khaseit ya kalb. khaseit ya jaban! inta abuk w kul ahlak ala zibi al arabi ya ibn al manyooki. walak inta wahad jaban! ma bitla3 beedak itwagif bi wajeh arabi.
yalyan abuk ala abu ili nafathak.

Anonymous said...

gilgamesh, serseri ibn al jayfa, enta meno ? wahad shroogee m3afen, abu gamul. enta shenu jabak a3la gilgamesh gawad ibn al shaware3. leish enta you know anything about history ya jahil, ya ja7ash, ya edebziz ya kundera, ya zmal, ya ge7ef, tell us what ge7ef is ya muty ibn al mutya, ya kelb ibn el kelb. Abet 7al kholfa al jayfa, abuk a3la abu eli a3lamak el hachee.pusht. lol

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WE HAVE AN IRAQI HERE ON THIS BLOG.

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LOVE IT! JUST LOVE IT!

I MAY NOT BE IRAQI BUT I KNOW ONE WHEN I HEAR ONE AND THIS IS AN ACTUAL IRAQI.

AHLAN W SAHLAN!

Habis said...

Anonymous

ana mish iraqi bass shab al iraq al-atheem taj ala rasna. ana ibn al urdun w bahayeek w hayi shabina bil iraq. w bin hayi al muqawama al iraqiya al basila.

al muqawama al iraqiya ili rafyat raas kul al arab al shurafa.

ahlan w sahlan akhi. tahiya min al urdun ila shab al iraq al batal w tahiya arabiya ilal muqawama aliraqiya.

shab al rais al shaheed saddam hussein ala raas kul urduni w bi galb kul urduni.


hatha kalb gilgameh la arabi wala iraqi. kalb ibn kalb.

gilgamesh X said...

Habis, stay in Jordan, this is better for you, ibn al-qandara.


anonymous, kul shroogi a7sen min 3urbi mithlak bes inta wa7ed bila sheref, inta shinu t3ruf?

maku hitchi shi mithl al muqawama al iraqiya - kulkum 7aramiya.

inta mu loogi ib 6eez el jarabstaniyin.

and it is fine, you speak Iraqi, you really learnt well from your Iraqi hustler, ibn al - ga7ba.


and i always asked Arabs not from Iraq, do they know serseri or aku and maku, and never ever knew this.

and you both can be proud to be jarabized by a Turk (Husri) and by the britith. mashallah.

and habis, I just would not give you a slap, if we would be both in Iraq, I would teach akhlaq.


allahuma a7fath bil 3raq al-3adheem.
so much about the myth: we all speak the same Arabic.

gilgamesh X said...

yaum yigii wen nakhadh-kum ya jarabstaniyin lil 3raq wa al-3raq hadha huwa gabr lil umma el jarabstaniya.

you can go on and read about Babylonian captivity - that is what I would do with you, ya ehl jarabstan.

3asha el3raq wa mwt li - kul 3urbi.

Bruno said...

[mojo] You don't realize it was Saddamists and other 3arab jarab who've bombed Iraqi cafes

All I saw was sectarian violence wherein the Iraqis killed each other on the basis of sect. I didn't notice this happening just before the invasion. Gosh, why would that be? Would it be because the US imported and supported sectarian leaders on the basis of sect?

"the Suuuunnnnniiii did it!"
mojo: The Saddamist & Wahhabi 3arab jarab mass murdered Iraqis.

Q.E.D. All you see is sect. Let's forget about all the Sunni killed by Shia. As you well know, turning Iraqi against Iraqi is a key part of US strategy. All it needs are stupid people that would put sect before their country. People that see only the evil Suuunnnniiii and ignore all the assorted deaths quads and driller killers from the other sect.

Well done! You truly have served your country well. America needed sons like you to go forth and propagate the seeds of hatred amongst the Iraqis. God forbid that the Iraqis would unite against the invader, eh? Now, that would be disastrous for you.

"Iraqis have a lot of spirit."
mojo: Wow Bruno said something I agree with. Yes it is quite amazing how Iraqis were determined to vote, despite the threats of murder and terrorism

I fail to understand how Iraqis voting inspires you with so much joy. Iraqis used to vote even before the Amreeki came over and "taught" Iraqis to put little slips of paper in boxes.

Bruno said...

gilgamesh "and Bruno , I fight for Iraq, too, but on another front, is that okay for you, Chomsky II ?"

One has to wonder which people you fight for, given that you support the invasion and pillaging of what is supposed to be your home country.

Anonymous said...

gilgamesh gawad, shroogi abu el gamul, wlak enta shenu, ge7ef, meno 7aramee ibn al ga7ba, ghairak we ghair shklukum al jayfa mal el me3deya. Harameya, sarsariya, wlad al shaware2, Saddam sawa be raskum khair. Ukul khara enta ajdadek men Iran, ajmi wasikh. enta wil zmal mojo, le ma3fen, el jarbo3 el khases.

Habis said...

Anonymous said...
gilgamesh gawad, shroogi abu el gamul, wlak enta shenu, ge7ef, meno 7aramee ibn al ga7ba, ghairak we ghair shklukum al jayfa mal el me3deya. Harameya, sarsariya, wlad al shaware2, Saddam sawa be raskum khair. Ukul khara enta ajdadek men Iran, ajmi wasikh. enta wil zmal mojo, le ma3fen, el jarbo3 el khases.

3/18/10 7:26 AM

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Habis said...

Gilgamesh commander of the Hide-behind-a-computer-Blathering Babylonian Battalions

You are even dumber than stupid and I did not think that was possible. What a fucking idiot. First you said you speak Iraqi and do not speak Arabic like I do and then you proceeded to talk to me in Arabic and we understood each other. lol. What an idiot.

You go study history you "Babylonian" You can read the same history book our "non-Arab Phoenicians" use, but keep in mind this is the Arab world whether you like it or not. I suspect you know this and that is why you are so mad. Either that or some Arab fucked you when you were a tender little boy and you are mad because you liked it soo much.

I know you were stupid the moment you said "serseri" was an Iraqi word, not Arabic. How dumb are you man?

aku and maku? Give me a break! ROFLMAO. Yes that is distinctly Iraqi but every single Arab knows that is.

We all say sho fi ma fi and as soon as we meet an Iraqi the first words out of mouth is shaku maku? What a fucking asshole. Iraq is Arab asshole. And you are very stupid.

Habis said...

and habis, I just would not give you a slap, if we would be both in Iraq, I would teach akhlaq.


allahuma a7fath bil 3raq al-3adheem.
so much about the myth: we all speak the same Arabic.

3/17/10 10:58 PM

Oh ok so now it is the "same" Arabic? Yesterday it was not Arabic at all, it was "Iraqi" you speak. Asshole do you realize how stupid you sound when you say that while simultaneously having a discussion with me in Arabic? Really. I mean it. Do you know how stupid you look now? Do you?

And you will not teach me akhlaq because you do not have any and you do not know what that word means. Inta wahed hakeer, haked, bila akhlaq w bila sharaf. kalb ibn kalb w khaen w ameel il amrikan? walak inta iraqi? fashart! al iraq minak baraa'a! kanak iraqi rooh harib w dafe an baladak ya watee ya nathil.

iraqi gaal. khasa! al iraq baree minak w min amthalak ya ibn al gahbeh! shab al iraq al atheem minak baraa'a!

And you will not put a hand on me in person ya kalb. I will put your head under my shoes and press very hard on your face with the soles until you say allahu akbar w nasru lil arab! And you will say it. In person that is. But behind a screen you can be a brave babylonian. lol.

Habis said...

gilgamesh the Babylonian you want to defend Iraq? From who? The Arabs? What an idiot. Listen you Babbling Babylonian it is America and Britain that invaded Iraq, destroyed it, occupied it, killed over a million and a half Iraqis, uprooted 4 millions others, tortured Iraqis at abu Ghraib, knocked down doors of Iraqi families, and raped Iraqi woman.

If you are an Iraqi you would get your ass up off that chair and go defend your country, your homes, your families, your sisters. You would not be cheering the torture and murder of Iraqis.

You are not an Iraqi. The Iraqis are resisting occupation. Join the resistance or shut the fuck up. Sitting behind a screen shouting curse words in Arabic, any dialect you prefer, is really embarassing for you.

C.H. said...

"The Iraqis are resisting occupation."

Habis, do you live in a parallel universe? Iraqis have voted OVERWHELMINGLY for the exiles who opposed the tyrannical scumbag who put them in a choke-hold for decades.

When is the last time a US soldier was killed in Iraq? There hasn't been many, because Iraqis are trying to live their lives and enjoy the freedom that democracy brings with it. This angers you, because you are an outsider who supported Saddam Hussein.

I know your type, Habis. I see the same thing happening with Iran today...the only people who support and defend the bloody theocracy ruling that country are outsiders (including hypocrite Arabs)who applaud its anti-Americanism...of course, they get to do that while living away from the madness, just as you did in the Hashemite Kingdom.

Saddam Hussein said...

Anonymous aren't you AA? He was the only real Iraqi that participated here before being banned after he revealed Iraqimojo's Father's ties to the State Department. A few posts down you will find Iraqimojo's own addresses here in Southern California. I posted them a couple of weeks ago.

Saddam Hussein said...

ch yes outsiders like me unlike the indigenous Iraqis otherwise known as the US Army

Iraqi Mojo said...

Yes Saddam has my address. When will your sharamee6 kill me, Saddam? Will you send the Hmar el Urduni? Who will you send to kill me, from the depths of jehenem? You had lots of experience killing Iraqis when you were alive. How in hell will you do it now, mujrim?

My father's ties to the State Dept was short-lived. Ayad Allawi had much closer and longer ties to the US govt, still does, and yet Iraq's secular Arabs (Sunni and Shia) voted for Allawi. Saddam, your people voted for a former CIA employee, just like you. You should congratulate him.

I discussed my father's role in a 2008 post:

"In 2003, my father was invited by the Iraqi Reconstruction and Development Council (a US Administration sponsored organization) to join teams of professional Iraqi expatriates to oversee Iraq's reconstruction. He arrived in Baghdad two weeks after the fall of the regime as a CPA oil advisor, but after working for four months on a plan for oil industry reconstruction, he resigned out of deep disappointment."

Seems to me the Iraqi people should have voted for my father. INstead they voted for Allawi, Maliki, and Muqtada al Sadr. And you and your fans are on my blog gunning for me and my father? SHLON mu6aya 3idna bil wa6an al 3arabi!

Get over it, Saddam. You are dead. And the Saddam-loving Jordanian jarab can eat khara from Falastizi. LOL!

Iraqi Mojo said...

"All I saw was sectarian violence wherein the Iraqis killed each other on the basis of sect. I didn't notice this happening just before the invasion."

The 3arab jarab didn't notice either. When Saddam mass murdered Shia, you looked the other way, or maybe you did not know. You see what you want to see.

Here's something else you and the 3arab jarab don't see: Shia don't bomb Sunni markets

Learn about the one-sided sectarian violence before 2003: Saddam's Killing Fields

Sunni extremists mass murdered Iraqis (mostly Shia) for more than two years before Shia militias began kidnapping and drilling holes in Sunni heads. You looked the other way, like most Sunni Arabs did. And like the Sunni Arabs, you did not become enraged until Shia militias began killing Sunni Arabs.

Shia militias stopped killing Sunni Arabs long ago. Sunni extremists continue killing Iraqis. Again you and the 3arab jarab look the other way, as you long for Saddam.

Iraqi Mojo said...

Saddam, do you remember when you worked for the CIA in the 60s? That must have been a great time for you, a young man about to lead a Baathist revolution.

"According to Western scholars, as well as Iraqi refugees and a British human rights organization, the 1963 coup was accompanied by a bloodbath. Using lists of suspected Communists and other leftists provided by the C.I.A., the Baathists systematically murdered untold numbers of Iraq's educated elite -- killings in which Saddam Hussein himself is said to have participated. No one knows the exact toll, but accounts agree that the victims included hundreds of doctors, teachers, technicians, lawyers and other professionals as well as military and political figures."

Saddam Hussein said...

Well that is just a terrible thing to accuse me of. Al Hamdullilah the Iraqi people and the Arab and Islamic Nation do not believe any of the Western lies. They still love me and they are building statues in my memory. I can see them from up here in heaven. :)

Iraqi Mojo said...

Saddam, just because you're getting the reach-around from Joe Stalin doesn't mean you're in heaven.

Satan said...

Saddam only gets the reach-around from me.

I do apologize for his posts here...I allowed him to use the internet to upload photos of us together and instead he's taken to harassing bloggers.

If this continues I'm going to come up there and give this Habis a wawa.

Bruno said...

ch] "Iraqis have voted OVERWHELMINGLY for the exiles who opposed the tyrannical scumbag"

CH have you been living under a rock for the last few years? The Baath were banned from running in the elections by force. How the fuck were they supposed to vote for a party that wasn't even allowed to run? You must be really stupid if you think that this constitutes proof of anything.

[ch] "When is the last time a US soldier was killed in Iraq? There hasn't been many, because"

... Americans are hiding out in their bases? Yeah, that could be it. But Iraqis still send the Americans 'gifts' from time to time to remind them that they shouldn't hang around too long:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100314/wl_mideast_afp/iraqunrestustoll

Bruno said...

[mojo] "Sunni extremists mass murdered Iraqis (mostly Shia) for more than two years before Shia militias began kidnapping and drilling holes in Sunni heads"

That's your personal fantasy. In reality America sponsored its death squads from the moment it landed in Iraq. It brought in Chalabi with hundreds of armed men reported to be drawn from the ranks of SCIRI real early in the war. Of course, people like you would rather that Iraqis fell into the American trap and killed each other on the basis of sect rather than uniting against the foreign invader. Isn't that so?

[mojo] "Again you and the 3arab jarab look the other way, as you long for Saddam."

Again, that's what you wish the truth was. You know very well that I don't support sectarian violence in Iraq. Every Iraqi killed by another Iraqi is one less person able to resist Occupation. Everybody knows that the huge majority of Iraqis want to see America leave. It suits only the Americans to see Iraqis slaughter each other. The Americans and the Al Qaedists whom the Americans invited into Iraq.

Saddam Hussein said...

You know its really not that bad up here. The weather is great, food and water almost as plentiful as when me and my comrades ruled Iraq, and Allah has wifi. I even hit if off with Gamal Abdul Nasser and we've become inseparable. He did get upset with me the other day because we were counting which of us has more streets, buildings, and squares named after him, and I had to point out that I recently passed him up. Funny thing though, I havent't found any Americans other than Julius and Ethel Rosenberg

Stop repeating all those nasty things about me. It doesn't bother me, but Omar al-Mukhtar gets very annoyed.

gilgamesh X said...

Iraq is Arab asshole.

inchab, za36oo6

@ to all Iraqis

this is what I mean. Jarabstanis want us to bow in front of them and sing the Jarabs' song. We are no appendix to the Arab nation, but the center of our own world called Iraq.


@habis

I consider your faggy lebanese phonecians to be liars as you because they know Phonecians and Hebrews were very close related.

I always said, Iraqis are the product of Iraq. Iraq is the country where Babylonians, Arabs, Arameans Persians, Alexander's Greeks etc. wandered. And everybody left his trace on the people there.

What do you think you fucking Jarabstani? that Great Iraq was an empty country when the Arab invaders entered it 1400 years ago. Is this the Jarabstani version of the Zionist slogan "Land without people for a people without a land". Iraq was not repopulated by you Jarabs, it always was habited.



Just because we speak some kind of Arabic, that doesn't mean we are out of Mekka and the Jarabstani peninsula.

People like you forget that in Iraq there lived Arabs before Islam and they all were thankful to receive civilization and turned over to become loyal Iraqis who love Iraq more than the non-existing Jarabstani Nation. After all, Arab tribes fought Arabs in the Qadisiya too, for the Persians.

So, I go to my Lebanese neighbour to ask them about serseri. I give you another special Iraqi word: "regeh". Now find out, you great Arab by the Grace of the Turc Sati al-Husri and Ms. Bell.

And just because aku and maku is known among Arabs for being Iraqi, that doesn't prove this word is Arabic or that Iraqis are Arabs. Merci is also French, yet Persians use it too.


So go on and sing Bashir's song, fucking Jarabstani! Never forget: iraqis are the people with brains (according to Aristotle).

And last but not least, ya loogi ib 6eez al-jarab, ya loo6i min beyrouth: I am more Iraqi than you will ever be in 1000 years.

You are the typical Jarabstani Fascist: It were Jarabstani Nationalists like Hadj Amin from Filasteez who organized a progrom against Iraqi Jewish citizens. People like you decided for too long who is Iraqi and not. Not every Iraqi is Arab and not every Arab is Iraqi. You have treated Iraq too long as private propiety. Iraq the land of quraysh, but that's over, all over. The tide is turning and the Iraqi tzunami will conquer you all and you will die by drowning like rats !!! Ha ha ha.

BTW, did you prepare yourself for your own Babylonian captivity ?

Iraqi Mojo said...

In August 2003 a suicide bomber killed an important Shia leader and 80 Iraqi Shia bystanders in Najaf.

In 2004 there were more than 125 suicide bombings, targeting mostly Shia. In 2005 there were almost 500 suicide bombings, again targeting mostly Shia.

Did Bruno and the 3arab jarab give a hoot? Did they even notice? Nope. Bruno and the 3arab jarab noticed only US-sponsored Shiite "death squads" after 2003 and did not notice sectarian violence before 2003. That is to be expected from the sectarian biased shit-for-brains Sunni 3arab jarab. I guess I did not expect it from educated South African liberals. But I learn something new every day.

Iraqi Mojo said...

"I even hit if off with Gamal Abdul Nasser and we've become inseparable." --Saddam

You're getting the reach-around from Gamal Abdul Nasser too? You are quite popular among the Arab nationalists. Hopefully Habis el Urduni will be joining you guys soon. You should know that Habis admires your balls.

What did you and Nasser do for the Arab nation, other than wage wars that achieved only mass death and destruction? Did you unite the Arab nation? Did you liberate Falas6eezkum?

Anand said...

Mojo, the wanna be lucifer channeler Saddam doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same breadth as Nasser.

Dolly said...

IraqiMojo said:
''In August 2003 a suicide bomber killed an important Shia leader and 80 Iraqi Shia bystanders in Najaf.''

Does everyone realize who he's talking about here. Do you know the YouTube video "Muslim Rave Party" ?

Where a cleric is hitting himself over the head, and all our Western friends and liberators are making fun of him and calling him nuts.

That guy. He was killed by the Abu Mus3ab Zargawi group in 2003.

And now everybody is required to pretend "Muzlim Rave Sensation" was a beloved and great man.
Everybody is fighting back tears.
More blatant hypocrisy that the world is used to from the Crusader West.

Anand said...

Dolly, speak for yourself. I at least really was sad about Hakim's death in 2003. I hoped he could help transform Iraq.

"and all our Western friends and liberators are making fun of him and calling him nuts."

Then shame on them. I am not one of them.

Iraqi Mojo said...

Dolly always speaks for herself and the Wahhabi scum.

"Safely in Iran, Al-Hakim became an open enemy of the Ba'athists, forming the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq (SCIRI), a revolutionary group dedicated to overthrowing Saddam Hussein's regime. In 1983, Hussein responded by arresting 125 members of Al-Hakim's family who had remained in Iraq, and executing 18 of them. This further embittered Al-Hakim towards the Ba'athists, and towards Hussein in particular. With Iranian aid, SCIRI became an armed resistance group, periodically making cross-border attacks on Iraqi facilities, maintaining covert connections with resistance elements within the country, and generally being a perennial thorn in Hussein's side.

The former Iraqi regime feared Hakim because he worked closely with Irans' Ayatollahs. He created the Badar Brigade which fought with the Iranians during the Iran–Iraq War.

Al-Hakim returned to Iraq in May 2003 following the overthrow of Hussein's regime by the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq. There he emerged as one of the most influential Iraqi leaders, with his longtime opposition to Hussein gaining him immense credibility, especially among the majority Shia population.
Initially he was very critical of the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, saying "we do not put confidence in the Americans, they have always acted against the interests of the Iraqi people" and urging Iraqis not to follow the US administration's dictates. However, he did give the US credit for overthrowing the Ba'athist government, and through the summer of 2003 indicated some willingness to work with the Americans in setting up a civilian government in Iraq. Al-Hakim's brother and fellow Muslim leader, Abdul Aziz al-Hakim, was appointed to the Iraq interim governing council and the two worked closely together. By the time of his death, he remained distrustful, but urged Iraqis to abandon violence, at least for the time being, and give the interim government a chance to earn their trust.

Al-Hakim was killed on August 29, 2003, when a massive car bomb exploded as he left the Imam Ali Mosque in Najaf. The blast killed at least 84 others; some estimate that as many as 125 died in the bombing.

It is unclear who was behind the massive bomb attack that killed him. A spokesman for SCIRI in London suggested that supporters of Saddam Hussein may have been behind the attack; others suggested it may have been orchestrated by Sunnis not necessarily connected to Hussein who opposed the increasing Shia influence in the country."

Habis said...

Iraqimojo why would I kill you? If I go to jail it has to be for someone worthwhile not an ordinary insignificant American kid. I do thank you for the Gilgamesh the Babylonian. He is wonderful.

Habis said...

Saddam ya habib al shab

You always had a great sense of humor even with a noose around your neck you never lost your charm. I am afraid of dying but when my day comes I will be looking forward to seeing you more than Allah himself.

Habis said...

Gilgamesh the Blathering Babylonian I sure do hope you stick around. It was getting redundant around here and you are indeed a welcome relief, comic relief, but relief nevertheless.

I noticed you spoke in English this time. I guess you finally realized how stupid you came across when you were telling me you do not speak Arabic while having a conversation (if you can call cursing a conversation)with me IN ARABIC. Your slow but you do eventually get it.

I do not have the time to correct all your historical mistakes and honestly it is very very boring. Iraq is an Arab country whether you like it or not. yanee bil arabi ghasbin yanak wal kundara al arabiya ala rasak. Iraq was Arab before Islam and it remains Arab today and it will be Arab forever. This is the choice of the Arabs of Iraq and for those select few which you represent you will accept this reality. like I said ghasbin yanak w yan kul ahlak ya gawad. al iraq arabi wal kundara al arabiya bithal ala rasak w raas abuk ya khasees.

You say times have changed. Yes they have. Now the western pigs occupy Iraq. If you are an Iraqi go pick up a rifle and defend your land and honor. Or do you consider sitting behind a screen cursing at Arab on a blog to be the latest contribution to Iraqi civilization?

And remember, in person I would wipe the floor with you.

Habis said...

Persians never inhabited Iraq. They were from the other side of the Zagros Mountains. Iraq was occupied by the Persian empire but the people who lived in Iraq were not Persian. Greece was also part of the Persian empire but they also were not Persian. All the inhabitants of Mesopotamia since the very begining always came from the Arabian Peninsula including the very first Iraqis.

Whether you accept historical facts or not is not important. What is important is to accept that Iraq is Arab and will remain Arab and people like Gilgamesh will live with an Arab shoe on his head.

C.H. said...

"Hopefully Habis el Urduni will be joining you guys soon."


I just hope he doesn't have to pull a detonator in a crowded market to do so.

Habis said...

Pulling a detonator in a crowded market is far more courageous than dropping a bomb from a plane. Face to face delivery. Do you care to come face to face with me? Like I said I will not kill anyone, but I will wipe the streets of Los Angeles with anyone here who has the balls to meet me. Anywhere. Anytime. Please do not dissapoint me. You cant all be pussys can you.

Habis said...

Why not show up together? I promise I will come alone. I mean it. No bullshit. I will come alone and wear a red and white kuffiyeh on my shoulders so you guys can spot me before I see you.

Anonymous said...

Saddam Hussein,

no I am not AA but I know him. AA is also Iraqi, an honorable Iraqi and a comrade. I know him personally and I remember when he exposed Mojos father's collaboration with the occupation. Shortly after that he was kicked out of here. He even shared with everyone that Aflaq is related to him on his mothers side and if he was here he could speak to Gilgamesh in Aramaic, one of Iraqs ancient languages.

Anonymous said...

gilgamesh,

enta khosh mamsa7a, abat 7al kholfa jayfa ya jahel, le3baw beek toba ya khera.lol

C.H. said...

This gem from Habis should be repeated...

"Pulling a detonator in a crowded market is far more courageous than dropping a bomb from a plane. Face to face delivery."


I got it...its courageous to look into the faces of the women and children shopping for clothing before you blast them to pieces. Is that what you are saying?

You are SICK!

C.H. said...

At least Habis is acknowledging that his heroic "resistance" fighters are bombing markets.

He even thinks its courageous.

gilgamesh X said...

@ lil qandara Habis


Anyway, I reserved you a special place in the Iraqi province Babylon when an Iraqi government takes people like to their new Babylonian captivity in chains (btw, the Arabic word salsala is also Sumerian, you super smart)

Iraqis feel about for hundred years Arabic, I know it and Persians co-existed since the first times with Semites and Non-Semites in Iraq.

And Akkadians aren't Arabs, okay.

It is so useless to talk with you about history, jarabstani history is selective history, rather like 1001 nights and not sticking to the facts.

ani a7san a7tchi wiya 7aye6 min wiyak, ya zmal, ahbal ?

And about Aflaq, I just repeat the words of my relatives who know him: Aflaq, who the fuck is Aflaq ?

Saddam Hussein said...

Habis habibi just go to his house and kick his ass my brother. Nobody will go to jail. It will be just one fight between two people and nothing will happen. He deserves it.

Saddam Hussein said...

Anonymous

Pass on my very best to AA, all your comrades, and the Iraqi people. Be prepared to get kicked out of this blog. All real Iraqis eventually do. And I am not surprised his father is a traitor. A Jordanian brother is dying to slap him around a bit but he will not come out of hiding.

Iraqi Mojo said...

"Habis habibi just go to his house and kick his ass my brother."

Yeah Habis, come to my house and kick my ass. That's what the Ba3thi 3arab jarab would do.

Iraqi Mojo said...

"And I am not surprised his father is a traitor. " -Saddam

Are you surprised the Iraqi people voted for Allawi, a former CIA employee (like you), and Maliki (Da3wa), and Sadrists?

My father is a traitor to you, Saddam, as are the majority of Iraqis. You led Iraq to war and ruin, and that is why my father and so many Iraqis turned against you. All the thousands of people who ran in the elections are traitors to you, Saddam. The majority of Iraqis loathe you and the Ba3thi sharamee6 who killed for you.

Habis said...

Anonymous it is always a pleasure to see authentic Iraqis. I am a bit jealous because your Iraqi dialect is much cooler than my Jordanian one, but I can say shaku maku.
In Solidarity My Brother

tahiya la shab al iraqi al-atheem
tahiya ilal muqawama al iraqiya
tahiya la shab al-rais al-shaheed saddam hussein

Habis said...

Saddam Hussein I think I will. Are you sure the address you gave us is current?

tikram aynak ya abu uday. ana taht amrak ya sayidi.

Habis said...

Iraqis voted? what a joke stupid. The Bath party were not allowed to run not that they even wanted to. The elections do not count because they are elections under occupation. The elections were rigged and they knew the outcome before the Shia riff raff went to the polls to stick their dirty fingers into purple ink, and if you want to know who the next "government" is just look at a picture of the puppet council appointed by Bremmer when the American pigs first invaded Iraq. it is the same faces, the same traitors, and the same political whores which have nothing to do with the Iraqi people.

Habis said...

The babbling Babylonian said "And Akkadians aren't Arabs, okay."

Do you guys know why he said that? And he specifically mentioned them? I will tell you. It is because the Akkadians are the one group that historians do not dispute was semitic and originated in the Arabian Peninsula where all Arabs came from. Prior to the Akkadians you would have the Sumerians in what is today Southern Iraq. While the Sumerians are also a Semitic people from the Arabian Peninsula, the academic community still debates their exact origin and some have argued they originated in what is today Northern Iraq and not the Peninsula. Even so the inhabitants of Northern Iraq were also semitic but we will let this go.

Sargon the leader of the Akkadians, named after their capital city, overtook the Sumerian cities and created what is arguably the very first empire. The Sumerians melted into the Akkadians. And it was from the Akkadian state the future states of Babylon and Assyria emerged.

So now you see why it is very important for this Babylonian kalb to deny the Akkadians came from the Arabian peninsula.

And that is why he felt it is necessary to point to that specific group. It appears deep down this hmar is may actually realize his version of history is bullshit.

Habis said...

Gilgamesh the Babbling Babylonian kalb ibn kalb

I am glad you are still sticking to English. It was really stupid of you to say you speak Iraqi which is different than what arabjarab like me speak and then proceed to have a discussion with me in Arabic. It was really funny the way we both understood each other. Do you realize how stupid you sounded? I think you do my Babylonian kalb and that is why you now stick to English. It was very dumb to claim Iraqis do not speak Arabic while speaking to an Arab IN ARABIC. lol.

You do know that in person you would be made to place your head on the ground so I can place my Arab shoes on it? You do know that right? Sure, of course you do ya kalb ya jaban.

So tell us you Babylonian, how many Iraqis share your views? I think you can find around 15-20 Iraqis who think like you. I think there is about a dozen Phoenicians in Lebanon who may share your views, and maybe around 50 Pharaos in Egypt. The rest are all Arab.

Since Im from Jordan does that mean Im not Arab? Does it mean Im a Nabatean?

Babylonian? roflmao

Habis said...

C.H. said...
At least Habis is acknowledging that his heroic "resistance" fighters are bombing markets.

He even thinks its courageous.

3/19/10 7:31 PM

What I am acknowledging is the diseased American mind that thinks suicide bombings are abhorent but considers bombings from the air or unmanned drones to be a civilized method for murdering women and chidlren. That does not mean I support either method. My position is that the American terrorist occupation army should get out of Iraq and take all the terrorists it brought with them when it invaded.

Saddam Hussein said...

yindakeya ya Habis. neek 3ardu akhu sharmoota

gilgamesh X said...

While the Sumerians are also a Semitic people from the Arabian Peninsula

it is so in vain to talk to a jarabstani about History, whether it is European, Pre-Columbian American or Iraqi history.

Your selective understanding of history is really impressive.

and the sumerians are not semites, that is really laughable. their languae and culture and religion is a complete different one. the hebrews are semites but not the sumerians.

you know, this is first class stuff.

start reading a good book about history and not Aflaq's "Arab rule the world".

and probably the semites are also not from the Arabian peninsula.

go look up in wiki about Sumerians before leaving such bullshit about history here. you really insult my intelligence and long years of study.

and i asked my lebanese neighbours about serseri - they do not know it, so you proved to falsify facts just on the altar of your jarabstani nation. you are just a liar.

and the baath party not allowed in Iraq to participate in votings - what party is allowed in Baathi Syria or else where in your Jarabstani world to participate freely ? And in Germany or elsewhre the NSDAP is not allowed to be reconsistuted. political organizations who are against the constitution are forbidden. and the baath party is just a political umbrella for a bunch of criminals. so much about your moral and political compass where north is south and good is bad.

Hail to the Jarab Nation!!!


P.S. and you should not make a lot about understanding that bit of Iraqi - italians understand spanish also well and I have seen Iraqi speech in Arabic television with Arabic subtitles.


and some Iraqis share my view, go to sot al 3raaq or elsewhere. in fact, my thoughts are mostly based on what other Iraqis have done before.

Aton said...

Wow Habis, look at that, Gilgamesh is punching holes right though your idiotic Jarab Nation logic. LOL.

Iraqi Mojo said...

"Iraqis are a mixture of Arabs, Kurds, Turks, Persians, whose ancestry goes back to the mysterious people who created the first civilization: the Sumerians."

Habis said...

Gilgamesh the Babbling Babylonian as ignorant and repulsive as you are I am glad you have joined Stupids crowd.

"insult your intelligence and long years of study?" Dont make me laugh. You have no intelligence and after those "long years of study" all you have is a few clicehs and slogans and alot of cursing at Arabs. I would say your teachers were very limited or you were unable to learn much.

You say I am "Selective", but it was YOU my Babylonian kalb that mentioned the AKKADIANS, not me. I just responded and told you the truth about their origin.

Read what I wrote again about the Sumerians and then you might notice how dumb your response to me was. But nothing will be as funny or as stupid as you telling me you speak "iraqi" not Arabic while having a discussion with me IN ARABIC. I noticed ever since you did that you only speak English. Good move. You did learn something afterall.

Finally I do not lie. I do not make up stories. I was educated through college in an Arab country and know Arab history. You are the liar. You are the fabricator and you hate anyone who is too smart to fall for your bullshit. That is also why you hate Sati al-Husari because he did more for Iraqi education than anyone and his curriculum in history tells the truth. The truth that you hate. That is probably why the only support you got on this blog is from the Americans who do not know anything but like the idea of attacking Arabs no matter where the attacks come from.

And remember ya ghebby that in person this arabjarab will stick his shoe in your mouth and kick your teeth in.

Habis said...

Gilgamesh ya kalb ya ibn al kalb, ya hakeer, ya menhat, ya ibn al gehbeh,

Sorry to dissapoint you but your obsession with the word "serseri" is not healthy. We use serseri in Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, and Palestine and all Arabs know that word.

Also you are the Nazi and the racist, and nobody else. Your obsession with tribes and blood lines thousands of years old is very characteristic of Nazi ideology. Do you really think you can separate all those tribes Iraq and the Arabian peninsula after thousands of years? And why would you want to if you weren't some sort of fascist and Nazi.

Sorry ya kalb, the facts are the facts. All those people originated in the Arabian peninsula. If you do not like historical facts I can give you another way to think about it. Assume you have a group of a thousand people and then later millions of Arabs come in and fuck your mothers and grandmothers and keep fucking them generations. Now after thousands of years of fucking your grandmothers how much is left of the original small group? Not much.

Does that make you feel better? Iraq is Arab, Iraqis are Arabs. They will tell you this themselves. You are a member of a fringle group on the far margins of the margins. You could not find 50 Iraqis to say what you say and not a single credible historian who accepts your historical cliches.

serseri is used by Arabs outside of Iraq and if your lebanese neighbor did not know it maybe it is because you live next to french-speaking Phoenician. There is about 12 of them left in Lebanon. You guys should get along great.

You are making an ass out of yourself and I suspect it is because you realize how stupid the people on this blog are. Unfortunately for you you ran into an arabjarab who knows his Arab history, the same one who would wipe the floor with you if you were not hiding behind a screen.

Do you feel hiding behind a screen cursing at Arabs in Arabic and shouting about long lost tribes that went extinct thousands of years ago is a contribution to iraq and iraqi civilization? Yalla ya kalb! you can do better. Or maybe not.

Saddam Hussein said...

Masha'allah 3alayk ya Habis. Im impressed wallah. You have intellect,knowledge, and education and you can also kick ass when you need to. They are afraid of you. hatha gilgamesh nukti. iraqimojo should get his ass kicked. Pay him a visit and teach him what an Arab can do.