Monday, August 15, 2011

Iraq going in wrong direction

"It appeared Iraq was in a time warp, a nation still struggling with terrorists, sectarian gangs and militias at a time much of the Arab world is moving to replace extremism through revolutions for democracy. The violence seemed intent on disrupting the government of Prime Minister Nouri Maliki as U.S. forces are preparing to leave eight years after the fall of Saddam Hussein.

There were more than 35 attacks nationwide, shattering the relative calm of recent months. The deadliest was in the southern city of Kut, where an explosion whirled through a marketplace. Minutes later, as onlookers gathered, a car bomb detonated, killing at least 33 people and injuring 77, according to a security official."

157 comments :

Anonymous said...

mojo,

will you ever apologize for supporting the occupation of your own country?
Perhaps in a couple more years you will have some decency to admit to your mistakes.

Anonymous said...

"Iraq going in wrong direction"

No shit!

Iraqi Mojo said...

Anonymous 3arab jarab, will you ever apologize for supporting the 3arab jarab who mass murdered Iraqis?

Perhaps in a couple more years you will have some decency to admit to your mistakes. But I doubt it.

Anonymous said...

i have never supported killing innocent people, ever.


anyways, what do you think of ron paul

Iraqi Mojo said...

Do you consider Iraqi Shia to be innocent people? How about Iraqi security forces?

I think Ron Paul is a constitutional fundamentalist, an isolationist Teabagger who wants to reduce the size and influence of govt, but wants to keep abortion illegal. I think his policies would result in massive deregulation and thus higher unemployment. But the budget will be balanced, corporations will be able to trash the environment all they like, and Arabs would love his foreign policy.

What do you think of Ron Paul?

Iraqi Mojo said...

Make abortion illegal, I mean.

Maury said...

Terror groups tend to morph into organized crime over time. They end up dealing drugs, extorting money from anyone they can terrify, and pulling off the occasional bombing in order to keep donations flowing.

The Taliban have become drug kingpins. They control 90% of the opium trade. Still, they'll chop your fingers off for smoking a cigarette.....LOL. They may have been true believers back in the day. Now, they're just super pious hypocrites.

Maury said...

"What do you think of Ron Paul?"

I'm sick of both extremes. I just want the damned potholes fixed....and paid for without borrowing from the Chinese.

Abortion is a perfect example of how dysfuntional American politics has become. People on both sides of the debate claim they want less abortions, but neither side is willing to bend enough to make that happen. Why can't they get off the ideology long enough to find practical solutions to the problem?

I would support free contraceptives for everyone between 12 and 50, male or female, if that's what it took to reduce the number of abortions from the current 2 million annually. I'm pro-life, but I support practical solutions....not this acrimonious "my way or the highway".

Anonymous said...

I believe Ron Paul is an Excellent choice.

He knows America is broke, they cannot support all these wars. Its just the reality on the ground. If Americans vote for another war monger, it is just one more nail in the coffin of the empire.

Ron Paul is genuine, honest, he was right about the wars, he was right about the economy, he predicted this a long time ago. I admire him most for his sincerity and honesty.


I really really like him.

Anonymous said...

Read this:

The Following is What is Different and Better About Ron Paul Over All Others:

When fascism goes to sleep it looks under the bed for Ron Paul.

He has never taken a government junket.

He does not participate in the lucrative Congressional Pension Program.

He returns a portion of his annual Congressional Office Budget every
year.

He has never voted to raise taxes.

He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.

He voted no to the bankster bailout.

He voted no to raising the debt ceiling and warned us against
the “Super Congress” part of the legislation that resembles both
an “ Enabling Act” and a “Politburo.”

He has never voted to restrict gun ownership.

He has never voted to raise Congressional Pay.

He never voted to increase Executive Branch Power.

He will Reinstate The Constitution and Save The Republic

He will END the unconstitutiona l FED.

He will phase out the unconstitutiona l IRS beginning immediately

He will secure the borders

He will limit Big Government in your private affairs

He will stop Illegal immigration and no amnesty

He voted against regulating the Internet

He is the only candidate for President in 2012 who actually served his country.

He was a flight surgeon during Vietnam.

Ron Paul’s popularity is so high among U.S. service members that the Texas
Congressman’s presidential campaign has received more money from U.S.
soldiers than any other candidate in the 2012 presidential race.
http://www.thestatecolumn.com/…

Iraqi Mojo said...

So are you an Arab or a Tea Party Patriot?

Anonymous said...

im Arab, i have supported Ron Paul since his first 2008 run.

The guy is good for America and good for the middle east. He's not an AIPAC lackey, which is extremely rare.


Unlike Michele Bachman, who used to work at a colonialist israeli Kibutz

Iraqi Mojo said...

'But as for the "top tier" of candidates, Paul just doesn't belong there. That "top tier" is a political calculation of who has the best shot at winning the GOP nomination. Paul has a very loyal, very passionate fan base, which is why he dominates so many straw polls. But he doesn't have the breadth of support that's needed to capture the nomination, and since many of his views fall outside of the party's mainstream, he never will. His poll numbers don't come close to Romney's and Perry's, and with only a couple of exceptions over the past couple of months, lag behind Bachmann's. Just because Paul performed well in yet another straw poll doesn't mean we have to pretend that he's going to compete in the GOP primaries on the level of those three. He's not, and we all know it.'

Iraqi Mojo said...

Ahlan wa sahlan:) Where are your parents from? Were you born in America?

Anonymous said...

if thats the case, then Americans will elect the status quo again

Rick Perry = George Bush

Michele Batcman= Radical evangelical fundamentalist who bases her foreign policy on misguided interpretations of the bible

Mit romney = Mormon, he will most likely base his foreign policy on the same zionist agenda

Sarah Palin = dumb bitch

Iraqi Mojo said...

Michelle Bachman worked in a Kibutz? Are you serious. I would much rather see Ron Paul in charge than Bachman. That woman is bathshit crazy.

Anonymous said...

Im Palestinian canadian but I read up on American politics.

Iraqi Mojo said...

I agree with your assessment of the Republican candidates ya falas6ini. But I like Obama.

How do you feel about Saddam?

Anonymous said...

I used to like Obama, but I don't like how he bombed yemen, pakistan, libya, somalia, and surged afghanistan. Honestly, how is that different than George Bush?

Saddam was very misguided and arrogant. At the same time I dont believe an American occupation of beloved Iraq was right.

In reality, every single leader in the Arab and Muslim world does not have any legitimacy unless the Khalifa is restored. You can agree with me or not, this is the reality. In the meantime, the leaders who work for its restoration are gaining credibility.

Iraqi Mojo said...

Khalifa? Do you think that would unite the Arabs? I think there are too many secular Arabs for there to be a popular Islamic leader. Too many divisions exist among the Arabs.

Do you have any candidates in mind for the position of Khalif?

Anonymous said...

Well there was a Khalifa until 1924, and the arab world witnessed relative stability for 1000s of years.

I wonder, with the rise of the muslim brotherhood, if this idea will rekindle. More legitimacy for the brootherhood = less legitimacy for the house of suad.

I cant deny the Arabs are deeply divided and fragmented, and this is a major cause for our decline into the abyss. When the ranks are unified I see the situation changing in the Arab world.

Iraqi Mojo said...

"Honestly, how is that different than George Bush?"

Obama has not bombed Libya, Yemen, Pakistan, or Afghanistan like the Bushes bombed Iraq.

C.H. said...

Ron Paul is an isolationist loon who tends to attract the worst of American society.

At this point I think I will go for Perry when the primaries come up...things can always change though.

Anonymous said...

Well, I guess he didn't go full out war your right.


I think Saddams biggest mistake was treating Iran as the enemy in 1979. Iran wasnt the enemy, the war cost millions of lives, and created (or magnified) hatred between shias and sunnis that goes on to this day.

I think Saddam should have joined Iran's revolution, but instead he opted for kufr and look where that got him

C.H. said...

@Anon 9:37

The bloody theocracy that holds Iran hostage is heading for the same destiny as the Baathists in Iraq. The fall of their close-knit puppet, Bashar Assad, will ensure that the regime does not see its 40th anniversary.

Anonymous said...

@ C.H

Do you want to have a bet that America will no longer be a superpower by the end of this decade?

Are you blind?

C.H. said...

I was not talking about America...I am talking about the clerics in Iran who treat their people as subjects. Right now they rely on support from Arab world, because there isn't much of it in Iran these days.

Most Iranians weren't even alive during the days of the Shah or Saddam's invasion. America is not what will change Iran...the Iranian people will.

C.H. said...

"I think Saddams biggest mistake was treating Iran as the enemy in 1979. Iran wasnt the enemy"


I think his biggest mistake was mass murdering his own people and idolizing Stalin.

Anonymous said...

What do you have against the Iranian Revolution of 1979? please tell

C.H. said...

I am against regimes that belittle the rights of women, kill people who wish to convert to other faiths, and persecute opposing viewpoints. All of this, and much more, was found in Iran in 1979 and it has deteriorated ever since.

Today the government of Iran executes more people per capita than any society in the world and has brutally silenced the will of its own people...while hypocritically cheering on protesters in Arab countries, imo (although support for the opposition in Syria is blatantly absent).

My views on Iran do not come from what the US government or the media have to say, but rather from the close interactions I have had with people who live in that country. Every voice of support for Khamenei and his hideous system come from people *outside* of Iran...

Anonymous said...

Can you please tell me how Iran belittles the rights of women?

There are more females graduating out of university than males.

In terms of killing people who convert to other religions, this is in the Islamic Shariah, so really YOUR problem is with Islam, not with the Iranian government.

If we do some digging the truth is your against Islam. Its ironic that you want to change the Islamic system when 99% of the country is muslim. Who the hell do you think you are? What gives you the right for telling muslims how they can or cannot practice their faith?

Anonymous said...

its just funny how just because you dont like something, it doesnt mean muslims dont like it.
Thats pretty ethnocentric of you.

Hi, im a muslim, I support Sharia law. You, the white man, dont. But I do. So really, whats it to you? why are you putting your nose in my business? You have your way, and we have ours.

I dont agree with Americas policy on gays, abortions, womens dress, pornography etc...but i have NEVER imposed my will on them, its their life, their society, their government, let them deal with it.

Do you understand the difference between you and I?

C.H. said...

No Anon, I don't understand what you are saying. 99 percent of Iran is not Muslim, at least not in the religious sense. The country has one of the lowest rates of mosque attendance out of any Muslim-majority country. 3 quarters of the country was born after Khomeini held his "referendum" in 1979 that called for the creation of an Islamic State.

Iranians spoke out against this madness in 2009 and were met with brutal repression. They were beaten and shot to death in the streets. They were met with it again this year, although you probably turned away and pretended nothing was happening. I stood with them and will continue to do so until the end. You, on the other hand, just want to support the opressors.

Yes! Iranian women do graduate at a higher rate than men, and good for them. The Iranian people are very intelligent...its no wonder they created a superpower long before America was ever even a thought. But do you know what? This is in spite of Khamenei and his sadistic system. Surely, you do not believe that forcing a women to wrap her head up has helped them achieve success? I also don't think you support stoning them for having a baby outside of wedlock...or not being allowed to ride motorbikes. Women also can't travel outside of Iran without written consent of their husband or father. This is tyrannical.

Maury said...

I've got to agree with Anonymous on Obama. The Obama administration has done a good job of continuing Bush's policies. Never mind the pledges he made on Iraq and Afghanistan. There are more troops than ever in Afghanistan, and Bush set the timeline for the withdrawal from Iraq, not Obama. I also remember his pledge to close Guantanomo. Hasn't happened.

Obama is pretty much Bush with a tan.

C.H. said...

"Hi, im a muslim, I support Sharia law. You, the white man, dont."


None of the Iranians I have ever met support Sharia or its brutal obligations...and I have interviewed dozens.

A racist onslaught from you, someone who is *not* in Iran, only reinforces what I have said to you earlier...that the Iranian regime relies on the support of non-Iranians to maintain legitimacy.

C.H. said...

"If we do some digging the truth is your against Islam."


If Khamenei represents Islam, then yes, I would have to say I am against Islam. Luckily, I have met Muslims who are nothing like him and do not agree with what he has done to the Iranian people.

BTW, you think that Khamenei defends Islam, but where was he when hundreds of Muslims were mowed down outside their mosques in Hama? He was busy instructing his hateful media to completely ignore it and talk about Bahrain instead.

C.H. said...

I would like to add that through all my visits to mosques around the world...not one person I met inside ever defended Khamenei and his regime when I told them about my friendships with Iranians.

Anonymous said...

Some fun facts on Iran:



Thursday, February 1, 1979, Imam Khomeini returned in triumph to Iran, welcomed by a joyous crowd estimated at least THREE MILLION.



Imam Khomeini’s funeral was the LARGEST IN HISTORY, with more than 12 million people attending the procession.

Iraqi Mojo said...

Do you think the Iranian government could be a model for the Arab countries?

How do you feel about Bashar al Assad?

Anonymous said...

"None of the Iranians I have ever met support Sharia or its brutal obligations...and I have interviewed dozens. "


Why does this sound suspicious?
Im sorry, but in the city I live in, if you go to a Husayniyah, roughly 90% of the shias support Khomeini

Anonymous said...

I feel about Bashar the same way I feel about all Arab leaders.

They all have one interest and that is their own thrones, and thats it. They all have to go.


Having said that, there is no way in hell i would support US occupation of Syria. I dont believe you either have to chose Bashar or the U.S, there is a third way, and that is let the syrians take care of it.

C.H. said...

Husayniyah is not in Iran...

If you want Bashar Assad to go, then you should be angry at Khamenei for doing nothing to support the Syrian people, who are laying down their lives to free themselves from his tyranny.

As they are gunned down, the "supreme leader" has had nothing but praise for protesters in Egypt and Bahrain.

C.H. said...

"Imam Khomeini’s funeral was the LARGEST IN HISTORY, with more than 12 million people attending the procession."


Another fun fact...most Iranians who are in the country today would have been 4 or 5 years old when the megalomaniac was laid to rest.

C.H. said...

I'm not sure if you are referring to the city of Husayniyah or a Shia Mosque, but either way, its clear that neither of them are actually in Iran.

Anonymous said...

no, i was referring to the husayniyah (shia center/mosque) city I live in in Canada.

Anonymous said...

"When you look at them the earnestness that is in them, a nation that is not afraid, when you look at them with the enthusiasm they have. They are not afraid to say "marg bar amrika" death to America. Then say "marg bar shuravi " death to USSR. Imagine that! (laughter from the audience). And death to Israel." Can you imagine a nation doing that and not in the least afraid. This is not the Islamic spirit that is in us here, but the Iranians are all heart and mind. They don't say, "this is an Iranian revolution "or "we are Iranians". They are talking about Islam, an Islamic Revolution. This is not an Iranian revolution but that this is an Islamic revolution. It's a revolution for Islam and little wonder why the nations of the world cant stomach it because it is Islam that they can't stomach." - Sheikh Ahmad Deedat 1982

Maury said...

"They are not afraid to say "marg bar amrika" death to America."

That explains Arab support for the repressive regimes in Iran and Syria. It was the reason so many Arabs loved Sadman Insane. It reminds me of Americans who supported Hitler, because the trains ran on time. Pathetic.

Anonymous said...

"What do you have against the Iranian Revolution of 1979? please tell"

What I have against it is that priests or clergy (of any religion) are not suitable people to run a modern country. Their heads are too full of their crazy ideas, when what is needed is cool judgement on priorities of economics and infrastructure.
Government and religion are two different things, and it is only the arrogance of some clergy that makes them think otherwise.

It isn't only Iran. The clergy were built into the British government too, for centuries, and it did no good at all.

DC

Maury said...

Those Saudi's are phucking insane.

http://tinyurl.com/3l5btox

Pisa said...

@Anon
Hi, im a muslim, I support Sharia law. You, the white man, dont. But I do. So really, whats it to you? why are you putting your nose in my business? You have your way, and we have ours.

What about those non-white people of Africa and Asia who don't support Sharia law? What about coptic christians or yazidis? Do they have the right, as arabs and/or citizens of their countries, to oppose Sharia?

I cant deny the Arabs are deeply divided and fragmented, and this is a major cause for our decline into the abyss

Decline into abyss, no less? Do you seriously believe that an unchanging world is a better choice than a dynamic developping one? I wonder how would anyone expect over 300 million individuals (the number of arabs in the world according to wiki.answers) not to become divided and fragmented.

There are more females graduating out of university than males

Of course. Women are smarter. But they still have to wear sacks and do what they are told by men.

It's a revolution for Islam and little wonder why the nations of the world cant stomach it because it is Islam that they can't stomach

The nations of Europe went to war against one of their own for the sake of muslims, so please don't tell white people what they can or cannot stomach (I know these are not your words, but since you quoted them approvingly, it's you who support the consequences). It's not that simple.

You defend the ugly regime in Iran because you hope they'll destroy Israel, not because you care one bit about the iranian people. I agree with Maury on this.

Do you want to have a bet that America will no longer be a superpower by the end of this decade?

With Obama or Ron Paul in charge, it will take much less. Isn't this why you support Ron Paul, btw?


@Iraqi Mojo
No Spring for Iraq, then. I must admit that I felt no sympathy for the iraqi people during both Gulf wars, due to sleepless nights waiting for a scud to fall on my precious head. The sight of my sister's kids, still in elementary school then, with gas masks didn't improve my mood. Until I found your blog.

You changed the way I look at Iraq and I thank you for that. A heavy burden of fear and resentment has been lifted off my heart.

Don't lose hope though - I still don't agree with you on many subjects :)

Off topic, but I post it here since you don't have a contact e-mail: you remember Nurit "Israeli textbooks are racists" Peled-Elhanan? Here's what I could find on the subject:
http://www.impact-se.org/docs/reactions/individuals/NuritPeled2006.pdf

12 pages of small print. Enjoy :D

Anonymous said...

Im Sorry, but Islam is a complete way of life and we cannot seperate islam from government, our Islam has a say in everything. We take our Religion seriously and it affects every matter of our life, especially governance. There is no such thing as seperation of church and state in Islam, Islam is and always will be linked to our governance. This is the purpose of Sharia law.


Please dont try to force secular democracy on the muslims. Muslims have a different system. You have your way, we have ours.


We do what we do regardless of the approval or disapproval of the Kuffar. Whether they hate it or not, love it or not. I can understand some Non-Muslims are upset and wish to meddle in the state of muslim affairs. Sorry, it is none of your business. If you want a governing system for yourselves that revolves around Kufr, well that is your choice.

Have I made myself clear?

Muhannad said...

I'm so glad I live in America.

Anonymous said...

Muhannad, if you reject Islam, Sharia, thats fine with me. But I love Islam and I support Sharia.

Muhannad said...
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Muhannad said...

There are many secular Muslims in Canada. Maybe you know a few. Is it ok with you if they too reject Islam?

Tonight I will drink a beer in celebration of my freedom to reject the regressive ways of Islam. Cheers!

Anonymous said...

Celebrate now, answer to Allah later.

Muhannad said...

Will Allah put me in hell because I drank beer?

Muhannad said...

"Is Ron Paul A White Supremacist? Absolutely!"

Anonymous said...

"How regretful for the servants. There did not come to them any messenger except that they used to ridicule him." - Quran 36:30

madtom said...

"Iran wasnt the enemy"

No the Iraqi people were and will remain the enemy, the same goes for all the Arab world. The enemy is the people that need to follow the leader or else.

Anonymous said...

Muhannad,

Who is your Rabb? Who is your Lord? Who do you obey?

Do you believe in La illaha Illa Allah

Or do you believe in La illaha illa Myself

Some serious questions to contemplate

madtom said...

Are people forced out of fear of death really religious?
Can you fool Allah?

Anonymous said...

I'm God fearing walhamdulilah

madtom said...

"But I love Islam and I support Sharia."

Believe or die is a lie.

Anonymous said...

madtom,

you are entitled to your beliefs and to me mine.

The difference between me and you is you have a deep hatred for Islam which resonates through your speech

C.H. said...

"you are entitled to your beliefs and to me mine."


Will you accept that my Iranian friends are entitled to their own beliefs?

If you want to live a religious life and raise your children that way, go for it. But who are you to tell Iranian women that they have to cover their heads and accept that they are worth less than a man?

Anonymous said...

C.H

LOL! You have become the spokesperson on Iranian women, I find that very humorous, especially since a woman in America is raped/sexually assaulted every 2.5 minutes on average.

Secondly, your claim that Iranians are not religious further diminishes your credibility. It is a false claim.

Do you want me to believe that the majority of Iranians are atheists, or that the overwhelming majority are Muslims? Which sounds more logical to you?
I have heard that 15-20 Million visit the Imam Reza shrine every year in Iran. Are those 20 million atheists? lol

This is really funny.The spokesperson for Iranian woman has spoken. haha

C.H. said...

"Do you want me to believe that the majority of Iranians are atheists, or that the overwhelming majority are Muslims? Which sounds more logical to you?"


Neither. The overwhelming majority of Iranians are young people who were born *after* the revolution in 1979. Since millions of them took to the streets to demand more rights, its clear that they are very unhappy with the current system. Do you disagree?


"I have heard that 15-20 Million visit the Imam Reza shrine every year in Iran."


Sounds about right...Iran's holy sites are, after all, a huge pilgrimage attraction for devout Shia around the world. Pakistanis, Afghans, Saudis, Lebanese, and many others are entering the country all the time. I'd be curious to go there...I imagine most of the worshippers would be older Iranians or faithful who come from outside Iran.


"You have become the spokesperson on Iranian women"


No, I want them to have their own individual rights. Let's say for a moment you are right about Iran and I am wrong. Now, imagine if Khamenei stopped being a tool and allowed the women of Iran to hold a referendum on how they should live. Even if 80 percent voted that it is their duty to cover up and enslave themselves to a man, what right or reason do they have to demand the other 20 percent do the same?

I'm not trying to speak for a majority...but every female Iranian I have met is strongly opposed to your way of life and old, bearded men do not have a God-given right to demand they obey draconian laws.

C.H. said...

"a woman in America is raped/sexually assaulted every 2.5 minutes on average."


So...because America has problems, I am forbidden to befriend women in Iran and speak out for their rights? I don't even live in America right now.

BTW, violence and discrimination against women is not encouraged by the government or carried out at the hands of security forces.

Anonymous said...

C.H,

I would like to know what you are referring to. Please be more specific. How does the Iranian government discriminate against women?

Anonymous said...

C.H

we get it. they were born after the revolution. I suppose you were born after the American civil war too or after the declaration of independence.

It is beyond stupidity to assume that just because they are youth, they are atheist. Ridiculous!

Anonymous said...

"Even if 80 percent voted that it is their duty to cover up and enslave themselves to a man, what right or reason do they have to demand the other 20 percent do the same?"

LOL! You obviously dont understand the purpose of hijab. It has nothing to do with enslaving women to men. That has got to be the most orientalist comment Ive heard today. Have you ever heard about a democracy? Majority rules

C.H,
How come I don't hear you advocating the right of a woman to wear hijab? It is banned in public places in Turkey, yet no word of protest from you. Could it be that this was never about human rights and more about another Agenda?

C.H. said...

Are you serious? I've been listing them throughout this thread. How about arresting them for not covering enough of their hair? Banning them from riding bicycles and killing them for having children outside of marriage is a pretty damning too. The worst though, is legally stating they their lives are worth LESS than a man. A women in Iran needs her father or husbands permission to travel. Women are banned from playing many sports in Iran and are even banned from attending stadiums.

The regime sets quotas for women who wish to work in the medical field and tries to limit high-end jobs they can obtain. This is a shame, since as Pisa noted, women are smarter than men.

C.H. said...

"It has nothing to do with enslaving women to men."


Yes it does...many women are harassed and even killed by male relatives and/or oppressive governments for refusing to wear it.

C.H. said...

"Have you ever heard about a democracy? Majority rules"


Doesn't work that way. Are you really going to tell me that if Egypt votes in November to wipe out the Copts, the world is to accept it in the name of democracy?

We are not talking about accepting your candidates defeat in an election...we are talking about human rights and values. Someone who doesn't want to live as a religious fundamentalist has no reason to be told to do so.

Anonymous said...

C.H,

I think we had this argument before. Following Sharia law is a muslim obligation and it is not a crime to follow sharia. That includes the punishment for adultery, which is a law for both men and women. That includes having dress codes compliant with sharia, and includes both men and women.


You dont like sharia law. Muslims like it. Get over yourself.

Anonymous said...

"Doesn't work that way. Are you really going to tell me that if Egypt votes in November to wipe out the Copts, the world is to accept it in the name of democracy?"

This is an absurd argument. First of all, it is against the sharia to commit murder. Anyone who makes a decision has to be comliant with the sharia. The same way you have a constitution, Iran has its own constitution.

C.H. said...

"How come I don't hear you advocating the right of a woman to wear hijab? It is banned in public places in Turkey"


Because this discussion has been about Iran...and far more women are harmed throughout the world for *not* wearing it than *for* wearing it.

Speaking Kurdish is also banned in Turkey. We could start a whole different discussion about that country but I don't have much experience with the Turkish people.

Anonymous said...

CH,

Do you advocate the freedom to wear the Burqa in Belgium or Italy?

C.H. said...

"Following Sharia law is a muslim obligation and it is not a crime to follow sharia."


That's wonderful for you. Now if only you would stay out of the lives of people who don't want to live their lives as Muslims. You'll find many of young people in Iran who would love to have that right.


"This is an absurd argument. First of all, it is against the sharia to commit murder."


I don't care about Sharia...I care about universal human rights. Voting to wipe out a minority or voting to treat women as subservient to men is on the same page, in my opinion.

At the end of the day, you, Khamenei, King Abdullah, the Taliban, etc. need to keep YOUR interpretation of God out of other peoples' lives.

C.H. said...

"Do you advocate the freedom to wear the Burqa in Belgium or Italy?"


Yes...I am very concerned about the anti-Muslim sentiment in Europe.

C.H. said...

"The same way you have a constitution, Iran has its own constitution"


The past few years have shown the world that Iranians want change. Millions of people have taken to the streets to demand this.

What does the Iranian constitution say about killing people who peacefully demand change?

Anonymous said...

Demanding change is not the same as overthrowing the government.

I agree the government should have dealt with the protesters better. At the same time, some of these protests were being hijacked by the west for their own agendas to try to topple the government.

Anonymous said...

"Yes...I am very concerned about the anti-Muslim sentiment in Europe."

If you were concerned with other issues you would be a real advocate. You have never mentioned any other country's human rights record, ESPECIALLY Israel's. To me you are a phony. You are not a humanitarian at all, just a man with an agenda. So far all I have heard you say was

"Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran Iran"

C.H. said...

The US cared little for the protesters in Iran. Obama sat back and largely said nothing in condemnation of the Basij or the idiot clerics who declared the protests were a "war on God".

The protest movement in Iran has been overwhelmingly peaceful and unarmed, unlike Libya, Yemen, etc.

C.H. said...

True, I do talk about Iran a lot...but that's because its one of the most important issues to me, since I have strong connections to that country.

Go read my blog...I discuss a lot of different events going on in the world.

Anonymous said...

C.H,

what do you want Obama to do in that situation?

C.H. said...

The same thing he did with Mubarak and Saleh. Demand change and call for the government to heed the people's demands.

He also could have pressured the UN not to recognize Ahmadinejad...and at the very least, could have denied giving him a visa to come to the US and be put up in a lavish hotel.

None of this was done.

Anonymous said...

Your not hungry for another war? Isnt that the American way?

Anonymous said...

C.H,

Any criticisms of Israel on your blog?

Pisa said...

@Anon
Have you ever heard about a democracy? Majority rules

Huh? May I remind you your own words:

Please dont try to force secular democracy on the muslims

Please explain. You don't have to, but since this is a public forum I expect you wish to make your views known.

How come I don't hear you advocating the right of a woman to wear hijab?

How come I don't hear you advocating the right of a woman not to wear hijab? I'm against laws limiting freedom. The question is, are women free not to wear the hijab if they choose so? You are against laws limitting freedom in Turkey, but you are for laws limitting freedom in Iran. Frankly, I'm confused. What is your definition of "freedom"?

How does the Iranian government discriminate against women?

Like this, for instance.

And like this, too. With a comprehensive bibliography.

There's also the Womens' Forum Against Fundamentalism In Iran".

C.H. said...

Are you really expecting me to say that? I do not want to see the US go to war with Iran. I did not want to see the US start bombing Libya either.

I supported going into Iraq because I felt we owed it to the Iraqi people after abandoning them in 1991 at the mercy of Saddam.

Anonymous said...

Pisa, In a Muslim country, I'm against women not adhereing to Sharia, and that includes the dress code. I dont beleive in the type of freedom you believe in. I believe in following Allahs Sharia.
The american way is to do "whatever, whenever, wherever" according to their own whims and desires. I do not believe in that.

Anonymous said...

CH,

I don't recall any peep of American protest when Iraq invaded Iran and devastated the country. On the contrary, America supported Iraq with weapons and even supplied it chemical weapons, all to attack Iran.

And now you are telling me you or America cares about the Iranian People?

Pisa said...

You want to talk about Israel, Anon? Let's talk about Israel. If Iraqi Mojo doesn't care that his comment section is being hijacked, of course.

What do you think about Israel?

C.H. said...

Apparently you are not reading my posts. I just told you that I was angry with the US government for looking the other way when Iranians demanded change.


"I don't recall any peep of American protest when Iraq invaded Iran and devastated the country."


That's another debate and is much more complicated. Khomeini wanted that war as much as Saddam...and many western countries chose to back Saddam. Israel, as you may know, chose to back Khomeini.

Anonymous said...

any criticism of Israel in your blog, Iranian women spokesperson?

C.H. said...

"I'm against women not adhereing to Sharia"


I see...so what do you think should be done to a women who does not adhere to Sharia? What if she decides to take off her hijab on a busy street to protest religious rule?

C.H. said...

"any criticism of Israel in your blog?"


We can discuss Israel if you tell me what should happen to a woman who does not comply with Sharia. That will tell me if its even worth talking about Israel's morals with you.

Pisa said...

I dont beleive in the type of freedom you believe in. I believe in following Allahs Sharia.

There's only one type of freedom - the one that allows you to live following Sharia and also allows your neighbor not to follow Sharia. Anything else is dictatorship. You don't believe in individual freedom, or in freedom of choice. You want theocracy, not freedom.

Anonymous said...

any criticism of Israel in your blog?


Are you going to answer that question?

C.H. said...

Scroll back a few comments...

Anonymous said...

C.H

In terms of Anyone in any country who does not obey the law, they would face the consequences of the law.

Also, like I said, I don't believe in the american way of doing "Whatever, whenever, wherever". I dont believe in secular government. There are hundreds of millions like me who believe this. Are you shocked?

C.H. said...

Yes...I am shocked that you want me to start railing against Israel when you just told me that you apparently support government violence against women in Muslim countries.

Anonymous said...

I didn't say I supported violence. I support Sharia law, just like hundreds of millions do

Anonymous said...

I dont want you to "rail". I want you to speak justice.

For example, my village in Palestine was wiped out by the ZIonists in 1948, and my grandfather lost his house, his lands, and his livelihood. Many of my relatives were killed by zionists, and now most of my family is scattered as refugees all around this earth.

Care to show me any criticism of israel on your blog?

C.H. said...

Its interesting that you want me to speak out for your relatives but you choose to mock my relationships with Iranians who have been arrested, intimidated, and forced into a lifestyle they want nothing to do with.

I cannot tell you how offensive it is when you demand they follow your beliefs when they don't want to...especially since you live in Canada.

Anonymous said...

What does this have to do with me living in canada? Canada is not only for the white man, kapeesh?
The natives here were brutally massacred in one of the largest genocides in history.

Canada is my home, I love its beauty, and I love the people, but by NO MEANS do i feel "privileged" or somehow "lucky" to live here. Canada should be happy and appreciative to have ME here, not the other way around. Do you understand? I am grateful to Allah, and to Allah alone.

Anonymous said...

i follow the law in canada, and i expect everyone to follow the law in Iran.

Anonymous said...

Your not a Mother Theresa. Your a Glenn Beck. Your a phony. You have never criticized Israel on this blog or even on your own blog. That tells me a lot about you.

Just another western orientalist with an agenda...

C.H. said...

"That tells me a lot about you."


Your hypocrisy says a lot about you. I don't understand how you expect me to take your obsession with Israel seriously when you openly mock my Iranian friends and cheer for their oppressors.

C.H. said...

"Canada is not only for the white man, kapeesh?"


That's really what you got out of my comment? I brought up your living in Canada because its repugnant that you take advantage of that country's freedom while openly stating that secular Iranians need to follow your medieval laws.

Anonymous said...

first of all its not an obesssion, it is a natural reaction. I am Palestinian and Isra-hell effects me greatly.

Also, how many of your "Iranian friends" benefited financially from the Shah of Iran and ran away in 1979?
If there are Iranians with legitimate concerns then I support them.

C.H. said...

"Just another western orientalist with an agenda"


You talk as if you *don't* have an agenda. You keep mentioning "justice" in Palestine but your idea of justice in Iran is punishing the people who want to live freely.

Anonymous said...

Actually, Islamic Sharia also requires the protection of Religious minorities and for them to practice their religion freely.

Anonymous said...

And I also think its offensive that you call sharia law "medieval". That typical orientalist mentality. No different than colonialist mentalities back in the day

C.H. said...

"Also, how many of your "Iranian friends" benefited financially from the Shah of Iran and ran away in 1979?"


That would be...none. Most of the Iranians I know recently graduated from university in the last few years. They weren't even alive in 1979.

Anonymous said...

Okay, but im talking about the ones whose forefathers fled iran in 1979, the higher ups who embezzled lots of money and where in bed with the Shah (who was supported by America).

They had kids you know

C.H. said...

"And I also think its offensive that you call sharia law "medieval"."


I will always believe that stoning people to death and stating that men are greater than women are medieval beliefs...regardless of what religion says it. There are many verses in the Bible that horrify me and I am thankful they are not practiced in the modern world.

C.H. said...

"They had kids you know"


My first interaction with the Iranian people came from a Tehran University student who was still living in the country a few years back. All of my relationships with Iranians grew from there.

Anonymous said...

You think its medieval because you believe your own law is better than Gods law. Arrogance

Muslims say "there is no god but God"

Others say "There is no god but myself"

Anonymous said...

Im not here to debate religion with you anyway. I just want you to know there are hundreds of millions of people just like me who believe in Sharia Law.

I just thought I'd let you know what your up against.

Anonymous said...

And by the way, what is your agenda? Why no criticism of Israel?


Put 2 and 2 together

Maury said...

I don't have a problem with Sharia Law. I do have a problem with the way Saudi Arabia and Iran practice it. When applied properly, Sharia Law can work for everyone.

Anonymous, did you know virgins are raped by Iranian guards to prevent their entry to Paradise? The guard will then present a marriage certificate to the woman's family for their signature. How would you like to sign one of those certificates? Could you do it without trying to kill the son of a bitch that raped your daughter?

Prostitution and drug abuse are rampant in Iran today. Much more prevalent than during the Shah's reign. The mullahs have brought Iran low. I have trouble believing that's God's will.

Maury said...

"Why no criticism of Israel?"

Allow me to go first. I think it's awful that Israel stones women to death. Obama should condemn Israel for beating and killing peaceful demonstrators. Israel should allow women to drive, travel freely, and wear clothing of their choice. Those rabbi's need to run their temples, not the government.

Whew! Feels good to get that off my chest.

Muhannad said...

Good one, Maury:)

Although there's been plenty of criticism of Israel on my blog.

Muhannad said...

The label for Islam is bigger, and I've discussed Sharia before too:

' "Here they are, the six principles of shariah:

1. The right to the protection of life.
2. The right to the protection of family.
3. The right to the protection of education.
4. The right to the protection of religion.
5. The right to the protection of property (access to resources).
6. The right to the protection of human dignity. "

I did not know these are the six principles of Sharia until I read this article. Obviously many Muslims have violated the principles of Sharia.'

Muhannad said...

"Actually, Islamic Sharia also requires the protection of Religious minorities and for them to practice their religion freely."

Really? I know the Qur'an instructs Muslims to respect the "Poeple of the Book" (Jews and Christians). But Sharia requires the protection of all religious minorities? I did not know that. I wonder why then so many religious minorities have been persecuted in Muslim countries.

Anonymous said...

"Canada is my home, I love its beauty, and I love the people, but by NO MEANS do i feel "privileged" or somehow "lucky" to live here. Canada should be happy and appreciative to have ME here, not the other way around. "

Wow!


DC

Muhannad said...

How do you solve a problem like Sharia?

madtom said...

"you have a deep hatred for Islam"

That is ridiculous, Your just making that up!
I only stated my belief that religion can not be forced. Regardless of your outward appearance or public declarations only you and god can know what you truly believe or don't believe. That is why forced religion is only a tool of repression, and one only used by nonbelievers.

madtom said...

"and now most of my family is scattered as refugees"

You live in refugee camp in Canada?

Anonymous said...

genius, extended family, as in relatives

Anonymous said...

C.H (AKA Mother Theresa), you still havent told me your agenda.


Im waiting

madtom said...

I knew a girl from Alexandria once. She was always plotting how to hide her fathers inheritance from her uncle, she would go on and on and on the phone to her mother. So I would ask, why not just give up on all that sharia nonsense, you don't follow it anyway, if you did you would just give your uncle his money and be over with it. She would argue no, that her society would crumble without it.

Lessons in hypocrisy

It was about that time I realized that the damage from living in a repressed society was the same regardless if it was cased by so called religion or communism like in my own family.

Anonymous said...

"Wow!


DC"

yeah, are you shocked? I'm not the white mans slave, isnt that shocking?

Anonymous said...

madtom, are you also a mother theresa?

madtom said...

"as in relatives"

They live in refugee camps?

But not you?

Anonymous said...

madtom, you clearly have no idea. Perhaps its because of all the fox "news"?

Also, do you consider yourself a mother theresa?

madtom said...

"mother theresa"

Not sure what that means??

madtom said...

I watch c-span

Anonymous said...

instead of looking at a spelling mistake, you should be answering the question. Mother Teresa, do you feel you are like her?

Do you feel like a freedom loving G.I Joe?

madtom said...

Freedom loving sounds more like it, but I am not military, just a civilian. Still not sure what it is your asking about Mother Teresa

I'm not catholic, don't live in India, don't have a charity or an order under my care.

Anonymous said...

Shit, you sound like ghandi to me

madtom said...

Maybe it's you

madtom said...

Would you have preferred that Canada had refugee camps?

Anonymous said...

madtom,

China is communist, why doesnt America attack it for not sharing "democracy"?

They would rather attack the poorest countries in the world, it tells you something about them.

madtom said...

Cuba is also communist, and a lot closer, or Venezuela they are both right there. Why do you think that is?

madtom said...

By the way, Charlie Rose is on right now.

madtom said...

China was poor until it abandon communism and embraced capitalism. Multi party politics should eventually take care of itself in China. Or at least that was the plan.

Anonymous said...

Once Iran has Nukes, America will back down and find a small poor country to attack such as somalia.

Brave G.I Joes

madtom said...

The KSA will buy some nukes too...great cant wait

C.H. said...

Anon,

Nukes are not going to save Khamenei from the cusp of change and a brighter future for the Iranian people, unless the nutjob if willing to go down in a nuclear Holocaust to prevent this.

Just think of what Iran could accomplish with nuclear power when it is run by the newest generation -- one that is tolerant and educated, one that includes women in the highest levels of political and civil office. Iran could easily become the next India and take its place as a global leader in innovation.

C.H. said...

As for my "agenda", Anon, I can only say that it is the right of everyone to choose their own destiny. I'm not sure how you are expecting me to answer this question.

C.H. said...

Anonymous Canadian...I am still curious to know what you would want done to a woman who takes off her hijab to protest Sharia law in a country like Iran.

What is the specific punishment that your interpretation of God demands? What should the police do to her?

Anonymous said...

CH,

ask an Imam if your interested.

Dolly said...

There are different religious views, contradicting one another so it's not really a good idea to establish religious law. Within islam itself there are 180 degree opposite views on issues between sects. Also the views of atheists would not be respected under a religious law