Also she said "The first time I ever heard of Saddam Hussein was in 1990. Iraqi internal goings-on are a separate matter from this Crusade today."
I responded:
Meanwhile in the House of Islam, Saudis and other khaleeji jarab have been aligning themselves with Americans since 1973. The mentally handicapped "Ummah" mass murders Iraqis as Muslims drink lattes at Starbucks in Mecca and as Americans plan their "crusade" from their HQ in Doha, Qatar.
Saddam's crimes of the 80s and 90s are separate from today's "Crusade" but I remind people of the history of Saddam's crimes to show that the Arabs and 'Ummah' did not care about the mass murder of Iraqis back then. They didn't care about how many bombs the Crusaders dropped on Iraq in 1991. They cared only about Sunni domination.
The hypocrisy is incredible. At least to me it is.
The Shia now have control of Iraq, and that is what the 3arab jarab got truly pissed about. The retarded Arabs and "Ummah" have never cared about Iraqis.
I should have added that zero American soldiers died in combat in Iraq last month. Most victims of bombings have been Iraqi civilians, and most of them have nothing to do with politics or "occupation".
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Stupid read my first comment here closely and then read what you wrote. If you do not feel stupid keep reading it until you do. lol.
You praised Saddam from Jordan in 1991 as America bombed the shit out of Iraq, and then you came to America? And you're calling ME stupid?
It's clear to me the Jordanians and other 3arab jarab reacted very differently to the 1991 war than they've reacted to this war. It is clear to me the Arabs "resisted" invasion and "occupation" only after their hero, the mass murderer of Iraqis, was overthrown. The Arabs have fought democracy in Iraq much much harder than they've fight their dictators that they supposedly hate so much. The Arabs have never cared about Iraqis. They only cared about Saddam. The Arabs care only for Sunni domination in Iraq. It is clear to me. Obviously it's not clear to the Arabs, who seem to be living in a different universe.
The idiots in Jordan praised Saddam in 1991, praised the resistance that was supposed to fight America and its allies in 1991, and then the idiot moved to America, and now he calls me stupid. The resistance-loving Arab mind is in perpetual fantasy.
"Sadddam Saddam You can Lead
And stomp on the Family of Al-Saud
Saddam Saddam take the lead
And stomp the head of the Emir
Saddam our loved one
bomb bomb Tel Aviv."
Yes I remember the hundreds of Jordanians in 1991 who volunteered to go fight the Americans and Saudis and blow themselves up among the "traitors and infidels". I remember how the Jordanian 3arab jarab bombed markets and police stations in KSA throughout the 90s for hosting US troops.
Yes, WELCOME to Fantasy Jazeera, where all your dreams come true! The fantasies of every resistance-minded Arab will be realized at Fantasy Jazeera.
Yes I remember how Saddam nearly liberated Palestine in 1991, when he launched missiles into Tel Aviv and causing a few old Jews to have heart attacks. We came SO CLOSE to liberating our Falastini brothers and sisters.
Yes, when I dream of the history of brave Arab resistance I remember how our Jordanian brothers rushed to Iraq in 1991 to defend all the Iraqis. I remember when the Arabs condemned the Saudi cleric who issued the fatwa that permitted infidel troops to enter the House of Islam, and I remember how Arabs from Morocco to Salt to Yemen to Qatar all met in Damascus and Amman. I remember how the mujahideen confronted the kuffar, the agents of the Crusaders. I remember when the Arab resistance killed thousands upon thousands of Crusader soldiers. The brave mujahideen who fought and died in 1991 are surely looking down and smiling upon you, Habis, for you are the online mujahid, a part of today's brave and non-sectarian defender of Iraqis!
So how is it then, after all this resistance, that Starbucks was able to open so many Starbucks in the Arabian peninsula? Why did so many Arabs move to America after America bombed Iraq? Down with the ZOG of America, but let's go to America to enrich ourselves before it goes down? Is that why you came to America after America bombed Iraq in 1991?
Allahu Akbar!
"saddam....honor killings...starbucks...arabjarab...i love america....invasion is liberation...occupation is democracy...resistance is terrorism....arabjarab...honor killings...i love america...i love america...honor killings...arabjarab...saddam...honor killings..."
On several occasions you've mentioned that Arabs don't care about Iraqis. Why do you make Iraq sound like a red headed step child of the Middle East? It's just as part of the union since the beginning of time. I was raised to believe that Iraq was one of the super powers of the Arab world until a non-Arab friend corrected me four years ago by clarifying that some Iraqis do not like to be categorized as 'Arabs' when they prefer their own identity. Is that the case with you?
A lot of Arabs that I know infact do care and they are presently working with victims of the war, I know so since I've also assisted victims as well. Majority of the relief crew that I crossed paths with were non Iraqi Arabs helping whom? Iraqis ofcourse.
I should have added to this: 'It is clear to me the Arabs "resisted" invasion and "occupation" only after their hero, the mass murderer of Iraqis, was overthrown.'
only after their hero was overthrown and after it became clear the Americans were determined to install a democratically ruled Iraq, or as close to one as possible. It is an incredible effort, to help Iraqis stand up and defend themselves and rebuild their country after three decades of war, tyranny, poverty, and ruin. The Arabs and "Ummah" responded with 1,700 suicide bombings, 12 times as many as in Israel. It all makes me very ashamed of my Arab and Muslim "brethren". It makes me very sad.
Anand;
Because Sunni Arabs hate the US and if anyone gives the finger to the US (even if he is a genocidal maniac), he is a good guy.
One day the Sunni Arabs will love all Arabs more than they hate their enemy.
From your tone, it appears you are defending red headed women rather than step children. Your next question will be
"Whats wrong with red headed women?"
There's nothing wrong with being a step child, only at times they fight harder to be granted the same attention and resources to excel as in this case being democracy.
I can't speak on behalf of Habis and his rant on starbucks though your presentation on starbucks was worthwhile. I was exposed to the truths of Starbucks nine years ago by learning from business developers that Starbucks wasn't doing well in the Middle East and so few shops were closed down before they would be bombed by fundamentalists. The Arabs aren't the hypocrites, it's more so the Muslims overall that are the hypocrites. The case of Starbucks is a complex political and religious issue that is partially rooted to Palestine and countries competing for U.S's funding. It's more important to observe a person's actions than words, since many people can spew the words but rarely turn the thought come into reality. I have crossed paths with few individuals who would refuse to enter a starbucks with me or even pay for my drink because I was being a bad muslim. I attended a predominantly Jewish institution and they had their share of starbucks in every major building. To appease the Muslim population, they kept Pepsi and Aquafina vending machines but no Coke and Dasani. Coke is just like Starbucks and Estee Lauder along with a LONG list of products whose profits contribute to Israel's occupation. It is impossible to not cross paths with any of these products while some try their best to remain respectful, i.e. I have seen Shias out of respect remove their belts while praying just to to be safe incase the belt is made of a controversial ingredient that is banned. Some try to be respectful but majority of people don't and that is OK--as long as their not pointing fingers. From my experiences, majority of Muslims (and people in general) who preach, turn out to be the biggest hypocrites 'every' time. Only preachers should remember not to poop where they eat because they are guilty to a degree too.
As for Shias in Pakistan:
Yes, I do agree they are stripped of their humanitarian rights and this conflict has existed since the beginning of Pakistan's existence. Pakistani Sunnis do not acknowledge half of the peripheral religious practices that Shias have instituted in Pakistan because it is based off personal belief and culture when not the word of God. Majority of Shias are migrants in Pakistan coming from Iraq, Iran, Europe and Africa over 300 years ago thus not everyone recognizes them as purely Pakistanis. These differences are magnified by village born Mullahs who lack formal academic credentials thus solely relying on the literal interpretations of the Quran. These mullahs do not know what compromise is, they believe that Sunnah is the way of life when in fact the Quran was created as a form of poetic art that is meant to be understood on figurative terms. Are Mullahs that worldly to understand that? No. It is not only the Shias that fight hard to be heard but this also includes Ahmadis in Pakistan. Ahmadis are a Muslim sect in Pakistan that are not acknowledged in the country's constitution because they are considered non-Muslims. I do not believe the initial constitution stated that until ammendments were made following parliamentary votes. Sectarianism was not openly acknowledged or enforced until Pakistan started interacting with other Muslim nations in political and economic activities. It is not a shock to learn that Pakistan and Saudi Arabia have been on good terms for quite a long time and unfortunately Saudi's money funds many militant groups with Wahhabi roots. At the same time the devout Pakistani Muslims celebrate receiving their visas very 'easily' from Saudi for their hajj pilgrimages. Outside influences have torn Pakistan into pieces and at times I do believe large theocracies like Saudi have largely contributed to Pakistan's downfall regardless of how many high profile officials will be granted asylum in Saudi after Pakistan collapses for good.
Why are Shias treated badly in Pakistan? In today's age I feel the Sunnis and its global counterparts fear Shias taking control in the political realm. As a human response they retaliate by destroying all of the Shia resources including well known leaders that are supposedly communicating heresy on religious levels. I will say 95% of Shias that I've encountered are peaceful Shias while the latter act out their religious beliefs in extremes, just like few Sunni groups that paint an awful reputation for their entire sect.
Sunnis have abused Shias for hundreds of years and putting it bluntly....Sunnis are afraid of their karma.
What will happen when the victims turn into abusers and abusers turn into victims? I don't believe the size of these sects necessarily dictate who will win this ongoing battle. It's a similar reaction to when President Obama won his Presidency--100% white Americans were uncomfortable with this fact because they 'feared' that the country will start enduring what white men have imposed upon black men...shear abuse, over and over again. Was that the case? I think not.
Am I surprised by the Shia uprising? No. It was apt to occur sooner or later. People can either continue living in denial or start making some effort towards a worthwhile dialogue in Pakistan. At the same time, I do not speak on behalf of anyone but myself.
I don't think the Baathists are afraid of karma.
Thanks for your very thoughtful and informative comments Shai's Window. I hope you stick around here and allow us to keep learning from you. :-)
Thank you for acknowledging the mistreatment of Shia in Pakistan. Unfortunately this is not a new phenomenon. The Seljik Turk, "Mongol", Moghul emperor Aurangzeb many Shiites to convert to Sunni Islam or be beheaded. Many Shiites converted under duress, while others chose to leave this world (hopefully while filling their hearts and minds with Allah at their moment of passing.)
This is the same Emperor Aurangzeb that ruled most of India, Bangladesh, Pakistan and Afghanistan until the early 1700s.
The Arabs probably treat Shiites even worse than Pakistanis do; if that is even possible.
In my view that unless anti Shiite, anti Sufi, anti Ahmadi Takfiri extremists are dealt with, there will always be attacks against nonmuslims by these same Takfiris. The root of this extremism is bigotry toward "lesser muslims." But this is what I think, and many disagree with me.
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