Sunday, September 12, 2010

Iraq to compensate US victims of Saddam

I wonder when Iraqi victims of Saddam will be compensated. $400 million is a large amount of money. That's $16 per Iraqi, assuming an Iraqi population of 25 million. So Iraqi victims of Saddam have to pay American victims of Saddam. It seems strange.

'Iraq has agreed to financial compensation for Americans who say they were mistreated by executed dictator Saddam Hussein's regime during the 1990-91 Gulf war, the US embassy said on Saturday.

"The agreement was signed on September 2," US Embassy spokesman David Ranz said.

He could not confirm the size of the settlement, but the Christian Science Monitor reported that Baghdad had agreed to hand over 400 million dollars (314 million euros) in compensation.

The deal was signed between Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari and US Ambassador to Baghdad Jim Jeffrey.

Iraq's August 2, 1990 assault on neighbouring Kuwait was rapidly met with a concerted international military response that pushed Saddam's forces out of the emirate and eventually ended in his ouster by a US-led coalition in 2003.

Several US citizens were held by Saddam's regime during the war over Kuwait and used as human shields to deter coalition attacks, with some claiming they were mistreated and tortured by Saddam's forces.'

33 comments :

Bruno said...

This just goes to show that the Green Zone bitches are still the whores of the Americans. I'm not Iraqi and my face is burning at this indecency.

Anything that Saddam may have done to the Americans pales in comparison to the mayhem, destruction and carnage that the Americans inflicted on Iraq.

It's like a rapist getting his victims to pay up because they may have scratched him while resisting.

Disgusting. *spits*

Bruno said...

"Another former soldier of Bravo Company 2-16 (2nd Battalion, 16th Infantry Regiment) has said in a radio interview that a controversial battalion commander ordered soldiers to open fire on civilians in an indiscriminate pattern of "360 rotational fire," upon being hit by an improvised explosive device (IED). The interview took place last month with Scott Horton of AntiWar.com Radio. "

http://www.truth-out.org/second-soldier-alleges-former-tillman-commander-ordered-360-rotational-fire-iraq63153

Bruno said...

"McCord told Van Auken: "He [Kauzlarich] goes, 'If someone in your line gets hit with an IED, 360 rotational fire. You kill every motherf*cker on the street.'" McCord said that he had also witnessed the order carried out, saying: "I've seen it many times, where people are just walking down the street and an IED goes off and the troops open fire and kill them.""

http://www.truth-out.org/second-soldier-alleges-former-tillman-commander-ordered-360-rotational-fire-iraq63153

Bruno said...

If Iraq owes America 400 million $ for damages, God alone knows how much America would owe Iraq for what it has done.

Bruno said...

Besides, didn't the Americans already steal 9 billion dollars of Iraqi money? Money that was never accounted for? I mean, WTF?

Dolly said...

Yea but, it's not enough to merely point out the injustices, because Americans will just laugh about it. They don't care.
I saw some footage from a teabagger rally on 9/12 and you can tell that the last thing on their minds is remorse or empathy.

Today's headline: Torture and abuse rife in Iraq jails, Amnesty report says.
If you asked the war supporters: "So this is the democracy then?"
They would basically be happy and think to themselves: "That's what those Sooni rats get."

So you see, it's not enough to simply point out the injustices, there must also be a military wing.
Because the thing that makes Americans weep is the destruction of the WTC, and not an exposition of their crimes against other people.

Aton said...

Bruno, you compare Saddam and his murderous Baathist thugs to a “rape victim.” You are such a clown.

Aton said...

Dolly, you are so xenophobic is sad.

Aton said...

is = it's

Bruno said...

[aton] "Bruno, you compare Saddam and his murderous Baathist thugs to a “rape victim.” "

Trust the utterly delusional Aton to bumble into the forum completely misreading my post.

English, motherfucker. Do you speak it?

Bruno said...

Or, he thinks that every Iraqi that has suffered because of the invasion is "Saddam and the Baathists".

In which case, his head is stuck so far up his ass that not even the best drain specialists will be able to retrieve it.

Bruno said...

[dolly ] "Yea but, it's not enough to merely point out the injustices, because Americans will just laugh about it. They don't care. [...] So you see, it's not enough to simply point out the injustices, there must also be a military wing.
Because the thing that makes Americans weep is the destruction of the WTC, and not an exposition of their crimes against other people."

There's a difference between military action against legitimate military targets and Al Qaeda blowing up buildings full of innocent people. The latter is precisely what the Americans have been doing in Iraq and elsewhere, and which people have been condemning non-stop. Just because the Americans were the targets on 911 does not make that action right. It remains immoral.

Aton said...

No, they suffer because your buddies ("the resistance") murder innocent women and children with callous impunity all throughout Iraq. This is compounded with the fact that Saddam (your hero) murdered his own people for decades. You need to pull your head out…

Aton said...

Saddam and "the resistance" are rape victims (by Americans) in Bruno's insane and warped mind. Don't act like you care for everyday Iraqis, you spent years cheering on the savage and brutal murder of everyday Iraqis.

Aton said...

I was there back when you proudly supported and cheered for "the resistance" and their common atrocities against the Iraqi public. These people on this blog might not remember, but I do. You are a fucking disgrace…

Bruno said...

[aton] "your buddies ("the resistance") murder innocent women and children"

Quotes, cumwad.

[aton] "you spent years cheering on the savage and brutal murder of everyday Iraqis."

Quotes, asswipe.

[aton] "you proudly supported and cheered for "the resistance" and their common atrocities against the Iraqi public"

Quotes, fucktard.

Bruno said...

Americans in Iraq:

" McCord said that he had also witnessed the order carried out, saying: "I've seen it many times, where people are just walking down the street and an IED goes off and the troops open fire and kill them."

Maury said...

Well, if McCord said it, it MUST be true. I get picked up by UFO's every other thursday. And Bruno knows it's true, because he read it on the internet.

Bruno said...

I see Maury is resorting to his usual 'defence' of not believing anything that conflicts with his quaint little world view.

That's OK, there are lunatics and delusional people the world over.

Remember your meds, son.

Bruno said...

BACK IN THE REAL WORLD ... Iraqis react to Iraq paying millions of dollars to American 'victims':

"Ordinary Iraqis were shocked by the news their government would make the payout, at a time when thousands of people are struggling with crippling poverty and the disastrous humanitarian fallout from the US-led invasion.

Umm Samer, a mother of one from New Baghdad, a suburb of the city, burst into tears when she heard about the deal. Her 14-year-old son lost a leg when a US military vehicle accidentally ran over him five years ago. The family failed to get financial compensation from the US authorities, or aid from the Iraqi government, to help meet medical bills. “It’s impossible to imagine that our government will pay the Americans when our own people are still suffering from what the Americans have done here,” she said.

[... but why is Iraq ever even agreeing to such a ludicrous idea? ...]

Iraqi finance officials said paying the US compensation made fiscal sense, and would help to prevent Iraqi overseas assets from being frozen in banks. “By paying this money we are protecting Iraqi money,” said Mudher Mohammad Saleh, counsel to the governor of Iraq’s central bank. “If we didn’t make this payment and settle this case, the US would freeze our money under Chapter 7 provisions.”

http://thenational.ae/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100915/FOREIGN/709149830/1002

read that again:

“If we didn’t make this payment and settle this case, the US would freeze our money under Chapter 7 provisions.”

So, Iraq is still subject to Saddam-era sanctions legislation. Legislation which the US can activate to put enormous pressure on Iraq's government.

So much for morality ... and so much for a 'sovereign Iraq'.

Anonymous said...

Bruno why do you waste your time with these American pigs? I noticed you do not live in this country and I am not sure how well you know America. You have to understand Americans are very stupid people. They have no clue about the world. They are all brainwashed and have been indoctrinated to believe America can do no wrong. amerka gud...amerka real gud...forenerz bad.." duh duh duh.

If you talk to them you give them too much respect. These are not people who can be reasoned with. Ignorance and racism is too deep.

Also they are not interested in the truth. They prefer lies that fit into their indoctrination than the truth that may challenge them.

the indian dude here is a fake. He does not care about Amerka, and amerka doesnt care about him. Here in amerka he is nothing but a cashier at a 7-11. But he comes from hindu radical racist home and he supports amerka killing muslims. thats all.

the other one is a jewish zionist and maury is just your everyday, run of the mill, trailor park trash.

dont waste your time

Anonymous said...

and another thing that kooky christian in florida is the best representative of amerka. He is not on the fringe. He is actually mainstream. You gotta hear the shit they say say in public.

one politician this week called obama a "kenyan, anti colonial tribesman"

they say things like this because they cant use the word nigger anymore.

have you seen the pigs protesting in New York?

believe me man. These people are stupid. Just ignore them and enjoy living in a time when you can see the empire crumbling. The warmongers who defeated Japan and Germany at the same time cant defeat the Iraqi and Pashtun national resistance.

Anonymous said...

maury you little bitch. My offer still stands. If you ever decide to come out of your trailor park and step up to a muslim, I would love to kick your ass down the street a few times.

Dont be such a bitch. And dont talk tough on a blog. It dont make you look good. step up motherfucker. Get up in my arab face just once.

what a filthy dirty ass whiteboy bitch!

Toady said...

Bruno;

You should rant less, breathe through your mouth, and in the process do some deeper thinking.

Aton said...

Who is this Indian guy that works at 7-11?

It's funny when racist 3arabjarab cockroach calls other people racist...

Bruno said...

[anon] Bruno why do you waste your time with these American pigs?

Because it annoys them and gets their blood pressure up and maybe one day I get lucky and one blows a vein.

[anon] "They are all brainwashed and have been indoctrinated to believe America can do no wrong. amerka gud...amerka real gud...forenerz bad.." duh duh duh."

Well, not all of them. Just the ones on this blog. And their multitudinous friends.

[anon] Also they are not interested in the truth."

Oh, absolutely correct. But they instinctively know the truth, and it hurts them. A slug doesn't have to be interested in salt to feel that it burns.

[anon] the indian dude here is a fake."

Speaking of slugs ...

[anon] "dont waste your time"

I rather enjoy prodding them ... ;)

Bruno said...

[toady] "You should rant less, breathe through your mouth, and in the process do some deeper thinking."

Thanks for the advice, but I think that all the mouth-breathers are exactly the problem.

Iraqi Mojo said...

'The Iraqi Cabinet unanimously approved a $400 million settlement for Americans who say they were abused by Saddam Hussein's regime, the government spokesman said Thursday.

The agreement represents a significant step forward for Iraq and could bring an end to years of legal battles by Americans who claim to have been tortured or traumatized under Saddam's regime dating back to the 1990 Iraqi invasion of Kuwait.

The deal is likely to anger Iraqis who consider themselves the victims of both Saddam's regime and the 2003 U.S.-led invasion and they wonder why they should pay money for wrongs committed by the ousted dictator.

Saddam's government held hundreds of Americans hostage during the run-up to the 1991 Gulf War, using them as human shields in hopes of staving off an attack by the U.S. and its allies and many have since pursued law suits against the Iraqi government.

The settlement needs to be approved by the Iraqi parliament, a big hurdle given the likely public outcry over the deal and the fact that the legislature has only met once since the March 7 elections. The vote produced no clear winner, leaving Iraq still without a new government.

Government spokesman, Ali al-Dabbagh, did not mention the dollar amount that Iraq had agreed to pay in the statement released Thursday, but Iraqi officials previously have said that according to the agreement, signed Sept. 2, Iraq would pay about $400 million to Americans affected by the Kuwait invasion.

Any amount Iraq agreed on as compensation for the American victims of Saddam should be seen favorably and as a compromise between the two sides, given that the U.S. claims "exceed $10 billion," al-Dabbagh said.

He emphasized the importance of the deal with the Americans since it could pave the way to persuading the U.N. to lift sanctions imposed after the Kuwait invasion.

The Americans involved kept up their legal fight even after Saddam was overthrown in 2003 and a new government came to power. CBS News correspondent Bob Simon, who was held for more than a month during the Gulf War, was one of the people suing Iraq.'

Shlomo Elie CockHeimer said...

Aton said...
Who is this Indian guy that works at 7-11?

It's funny when racist 3arabjarab cockroach calls other people racist...

9/15/10 6:20 PM

I didn't know who he meant until you responded. Now I know. Back to the 7-11 cash register. No wonder you praise America. Here you get a 7-11. In the Arab world its a mop and directions to the bathroom. lol.

Shlomo Elie CockHeimer said...

Iraqi Mojo

For someone raised in America you sure do have a hard on for Saddam Hussein.

Anyone who spends 5 minutes on this silly blog can easily tell all you have our second and third hand stories you heard from someone. You don't sound like you really know anything about Iraq. Its obvious dude. You have nothing to do with it.

Psst! Ill let you in on a little secret. Americans have alot more respect for Saddam Hussein than they do for the puppets they installed, and neither one of those Iraqi teams ever heard of you.

Bruno said...

Hey! Is "elie" still around? If so, where? I'd like to harass the little prick a bit. ;)

Dolly said...

Bruno, the more you take the moral high ground, the more they will continue to abuse civilians.

This fact has been comprehended by shaykh Osama bin Laden, who himself hates killing, but understands that fighting poison with poison is the only way to stop them.

Everyone who has come out against violence, has been abused by the Americans.
Everyone who comes out against bin Laden's policy of 'retaliatory targeting of civilians,' has been locked up for life by the Americans.

Just today, Aafia Siddiqui said she didn't want her name to be used for justifying terror attacks. Result? They sentenced her to 86 years.

Simply put: OBL is right and the moderates are wrong.


If you think back, several months ago I asked you to root for Al-Qaa'idah, but you took a clear stand against them.

And what was the reaction?
Well, in his very next response, Aton said to you: "Your terrorist buddies."

See, you will get nowhere at all with condemning AQ, they will just tease you.

If you care about civilian lives, then the long term way to preserve them is to kill the civilians of the enemy until they refrain.

Dolly said...

You may be tempted to respond: "Sorry, but I fail to see how targeting a civilian in London has anything to do with the evil policies of Washington. To murder people in such a sick manner does nothing to solve matters, and actually contradicts the entire intention, because you stoop to the murderous level of the U.S."

See, that may be the feel-good reply for you, but if you say such things, what will be the outcome:

Aton will come and say: "How was the AQ Shura meeting today, Bruno?"

Trust me, they only perceive your condemnation of AQ as weakness, your condemnation of AQ will resolve nothing.