Wednesday, September 08, 2010

America is a nation of tolerance

Tonight I watched a bit of Anderson Cooper and saw Eliot Spitzer remind us that we are a nation of tolerance. It's one of the great things about America, the country that we (my parents) sought refuge in after we escaped the horrors of Saddam's regime in 1982. We came to America for the freedom, which may be America's most important asset. We have freedom of religion and freedom of speech. Sometimes we must deal with contentious issues, like allowing the building of mosques. Spitzer pointed out that 200 years ago George Washington had to step in and convince a country of Christians to allow the building of a Synagogue.

Also on CNN I saw part of Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf's interview with Soledad O'Brien. The Imam said that if they move from that location in lower Manhattan, the message in Muslim countries will be that Islam is under attack. Really? I don't think so. National security may be compromised? How so? Should we be afraid of how Islamic extremists react? I don't think so. I don't care how they react. But I think we should convey to the world that America truly is a tolerant nation. We should show the world we really do have freedom of religion in America, unlike in Saudi Arabia. We Americans will not conflate Islam with terrorism.

I understand why a relative of a 9/11 victim would not want to see a mosque near Ground Zero, and I think the Imam should consider those feelings and try to accommodate the people who lost loved ones on 9/11. Can it be a multi-faith community center? The Imam says "There will be separate prayer spaces for Muslims, Christians, Jews and men and women of other faiths. The center will also include a multifaith memorial dedicated to victims of the Sept. 11 attacks."

Abdul Rauf seems to be seeking compromise, and that is what he should be doing. He should be talking to as many New Yorkers as possible, and if a majority of New Yorkers don't want a mosque near Ground Zero, the Imam should be prepared to change his plans and do something else with the building. But that may tarnish the image of American tolerance, of freedom of religion. And that's not a good thing for America, I believe. Allowing Cordoba House to be built near Ground Zero would show the world that we truly are a tolerant nation, and it would show the Wahhabis and Salafis and Al Qaeda that we Americans are so much better humans than they are.


Iraqi Mojo said...

"This weekend, a Jewish woman who lost her husband in the 9/11 attacks is planning to speak at a mosque in Boston. She will be trying to recruit members of the mosque to join her battle against poverty and illiteracy in Afghanistan."

madtom said...

"But I think we should convey to the world that America truly is a tolerant nation. We should show the world we really do have freedom of religion in America,"

I don't think we are under any such obligation. It is for the rest of the world to educate itself, if they so desire.

Like Eastwood said in that movie, "he should have armed himself"

Bruno said...

LMAO @ madtom.

The rest of the world already knows what y'all are about.

Maury said...

What's it to you Bruno? If the world was polled tomorrow, and 100% said amreeka was evil, so fucking what? If President Obama addressed the UN and said every amreekan is evil, so fucking what? Would you get a cookie with cute little m&m's ? A trophy of some kind?

You've spent the last 7 years going on and on about how evil amreeka is. You bring up the silliest shit, repeat it ad nauseum, then declare yourself victorious. Again, and again, and again. Get a fucking life already.

Anonymous said...

iraqi asshole

imam rauf should speak to new yorkers? Why? And when are the american pigs going to remove all the offensive evangelical churches. They need to be sensitive to muslims for all the killing their christian presidents have done.

also i dont give a shit what new yorkers think. we can respect their loss but we dont have to respect their ignorance and bigotry.

let americans reach out to arabs and muslims and show some remorse for all the death they have caused.

you need to take some time off from taking american dick up your ass so you can go fuck your own self.

Dolly said...

"If the world was polled tomorrow, and 100% said amreeka was evil, so fucking what?"

So now not only the Ay-rabs, but the world at large says "Amreeka"?

Dolly said...

So, the fact that Americans are intolerant "may tarnish the image of American tolerance."

And the fact that Americans hate moozlims "may be used by AQ to propagate that Americans hate moozlims."

Wouldn't it be simpler to say that Americans are intolerant, hate moozlims, and AQ was correct about it the entire time.

Aton said...

Bruno now thinks he speaks for the world. What an idiot...

Bruno said...

Gosh, it appears that Maury and Aton are rattled by my simple comment.

It appears that feel-good bullshit is more important to them than the truth, particularly in Maury's case.

Maury professes not to care one way or the other if people outside of the US think badly of America ... but he's going to need roto-rooter to get his panties out of his crack following his reaction. Hmmm. Maybe he does care, after all?

If so, understand that American policy and criminal invasions are what have led to this negative sentiment. Now, that is something you could do something about.

Maury said...

I never professed not to care Bruno. I don't enjoy the fact that Pakistani's hate us. But, it doesn't stop us from sending billions in aid every year. We don't take a poll after a flood or earthquake hits before doing what we can to help. 4 of the top 5 aid recipients hate the US with a passion. Changes nothing.

Rome didn't have a 1000 year empire because it gave people a warm and fuzzy feeling. It lasted that long because it worked for more people than not. Even if your lifelong mission to convince the world amreekans are meanies is won't change a damned thing Bruno. Kuwait will still call us when they're invaded. China will still need a market for their goods. 100 some odd countries will still prefer US bases over their own.

You seem to think the US enjoys this position in the world because it won a popularity contest or something. Get real Bruno.

B Will Derd said...

As and American, I have learned much about tolerance from Islamic nations. And fascism. Misogyny, slavery, pedophilia, stoning, lashings, mass murder, genocide...... I could go on, but as a member of the blossoming Dhimmitude, I suppose I should lower my eyes and stop now. I'm still learning.

Bruno said...

[maury] "You seem to think the US enjoys this position in the world because it won a popularity contest or something."

That's what AMERICANS believe, Maury. You have it ass-backwards. Piles of corpses are why America manages to keep its empire intact.

madtom said...

No one else has corpses? just them dammed "Amreeka"

A guy must have to work hard at being that ignorant of the world around him.