Saturday, September 04, 2010

Considerable distrust of Muslim Americans

"A New York Times poll of New York City residents that found that even this city, the country’s most diverse and cosmopolitan, is not immune to suspicion and to a sadly wary misunderstanding of Muslim-Americans.

The poll found considerable distrust of Muslim-Americans and robust disapproval of the mosque proposal. Asked whether they thought Muslim-Americans were “more sympathetic to terrorists” than other citizens, 33 percent said yes, a discouraging figure, roughly consistent with polls taken since Sept. 11, 2001. Thirty-one percent said they didn’t know any Muslims; 39 percent said they knew Muslims but not as close friends.

A full 72 percent agreed that people had every right to build a “house of worship” near the site. But only 62 percent acknowledged that right when “house of worship” was changed to “mosque and Islamic community center.” Sixty-seven percent thought the mosque planners should find “a less controversial location.” While only 21 percent of respondents confessed to having “negative feelings” toward Muslims because of the attack on the World Trade Center, 59 percent said they knew people who did."

50 comments :

Dolly said...

Look at this http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/5918/74732484.jpg
And what is on her avatar? A coalition soldier.
It is a Crusader war on the religion of Allaah jalla fee 3olaa.

Dolly said...

Check out this excellent 3 word summary of the situation.

A review of Fareed Zakaria's Newsweek article "Maybe We Overreacted to 9/11":
http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/1373/20307822.jpg

Get it?? He quotes the name, and asks: On what account does an Indian guy even constitute "We."

Maury said...

1 in 4 U.S. Young Muslims OK With Homicide Bombings Against Civilians

Nearly half of Muslims in the U.S.
(47%) say they think of themselves first as a
Muslim, rather than as an American.

Just 40% of Muslim Americans
say groups of Arabs carried out 9/11.

http://tinyurl.com/2c5v3d

Anonymous said...

1 in 4 U.S. Young Muslims OK With Homicide Bombings Against Civilians

Nearly half of Muslims in the U.S.
(47%) say they think of themselves first as a
Muslim, rather than as an American.

.......................

Nearly 100% of Americans support dropping bombs on Afghan and Iraqi civilians and slaughtering their children. They get almost as much satisfaction out of watching Gods Chosen slaughter Palestinian children also.

Even the ones who oppose do so only because they think killing all those people has cost them a little too much money.

Go fuck yourself asshole!

Aton said...

I don't think any Americans support dropping bombs on civilians.

Bruno said...

Aton needs to get his head out of his ass before he suffocates.

Aton said...

Why don't you enlighten me Bruno. Who in America supports dropping bombs on civilians? Besides Anon.

Anonymous said...

If some fraction of Americans are suspicious of Moslems, we need look no further for the reasons than our own local " Dolly ".
bushtheliberator

Anonymous said...

Aton said...
I don't think any Americans support dropping bombs on civilians.

9/5/10 8:09 PM

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Of course they do idiot. They love it. They even plan it. And everytime they do it they enjoy insulting their dead victims memory by apologizing and saying they were going after terrorists. They even have a name for it. Collateral damage.

American pigs also think the dead civilians families should get over it as soon as they express "regret" But notice if an Arab kills civilians. Oh my! All of a sudden they are overcome with righteous outrage at such barbarity.

Has there even been a more barbaric country or culture than America?

Bruno said...

[aton] "Why don't you enlighten me Bruno. Who in America supports dropping bombs on civilians?"

These folks:

codawsome "hahahaha fuck iraq. my dad has 34 confirmed kills"

snappler79 "@Biene240 fuck germany what a fuckin useless country. usa should keep fuckin up iraqis then after we should fuck up germany...again"

ButtBuddy14 "Nuke the bitches then jack the oil"

codawsome " @tobeornot00 you can fuck off gook. my dads going back over in 4 months and hope he kills 68. i going to basic in 6 months so i can be just like daddy. so u can suck my big fat american cock. my uncle killed 83 gooks in Vietnam, confirmed too. so fuck off"

codawsome "@NevenHermiz1 fuck u if u dont like america u can get the fuck out. these guys risk there lives to give u freedom. i think they can do what ever the fuck they want to those sand nigger pieces of shit."

palehorseridder "@ltarighi why don't you watch some videos of how lazy and dishonest the iraqi people are and you'll see what we have against Iraq."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFifyW7NRcs

Bruno said...

Or these:

kstsfx "God, i wish every Muslim on this planet is destroyed soon. They bring nothing but murder and destruction, my lord, i beg you cleanse this planet of disease that is Islam..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7DWdRVDA_A&feature=related

Bruno said...

Or these:

Barnhart24 "Hahahah, fucking hilarious. Fuck their shitty country and shitty religion."

jesus07juice "kill them all when they are young, so you dont have to fight them when they are men with guns in their hands."

mrm2506 "lol lol kill the fucking muslim kids"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSQokuug_uQ&feature=related

Bruno said...

Or these:

Barnhart24 "Hahahah, fucking hilarious. Fuck their shitty country and shitty religion."

jesus07juice "kill them all when they are young, so you dont have to fight them when they are men with guns in their hands."

mrm2506 "lol lol kill the fucking muslim kids"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSQokuug_uQ&feature=related

Bruno said...

Or these guys, perfect accessories to the poor soldiers moaning about how they're not allowed to shoot the little Iraqi kids that lobbed some stones at them:

TheAlexander8898 "Just shoot the little bastards I don't care if your not aloud to engage them. I'm 100% sure they're going to be in Al Qaeda or Taliban or whatever the fuck it is!"

miggshawn "@cookman283 i actualy would shoot the fuckers there dirty they smell bad when there old enough to get guns there gonna shoot and ppl are always like oh dont nuke those middle eastern poor inoccent kids fuck that shit when those sand niggers grow older there gonna shoot at the us and canadians so im happy obama and harper are pulling out tropps at the end of next year"

voodoomau5 "just stick ya gun out of the window and mow the little dunecoons down

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tGAnjtYfDE&feature=related

Bruno said...

Like shooting fish in a barrel.

Iraqi Mojo said...

So schmucks like "voodoomau5" represent America?

Maury said...

Bruno has sunk to new lows. He's using youtube comments to prove how evil amreeka is. Someone should tell Bruno that even South Africans can use youtube. Or, that ButtBuddy14 could be someone's grandmother. The poor guy still believes if something's on the internet....it must be true.

I bet those Nigerians clean out his bank account every other week.

Memnon said...

So schmucks like "voodoomau5" represent America?

The answer would be NO.

Voodoomau5 is from the United Kingdom, as is Jesus07juice.

miggshawn and buttbuddy14 are Canadians and kstsfy is from Niger.

Anonymous said...

Iraqi Mojo said...
So schmucks like "voodoomau5" represent America?

9/7/10 8:45 AM

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Yes they do. Absolutely. They are the essence of what it means to be an American.

Anonymous said...

Maury said...
Bruno has sunk to new lows. He's using youtube comments to prove how evil amreeka is. Someone should tell Bruno that even South Africans can use youtube. Or, that ButtBuddy14 could be someone's grandmother. The poor guy still believes if something's on the internet....it must be true.

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This from an American asshole? Are you serious? you are the youtube dumbfucks. Everything you think you know about Islam and Arabs comes from quotes or youtube videos of obscure people nobody ever heard of. Then you come out like the assholes you are thinking you are experts on the subject and throw out words like "jihad"

The bitch that runs this blog and sucks your american cocks all day relies on MEMRI videos.

Atleast Bruno offered us a large, and representative cross segment of the most articulate of Americans.

And do not be so upset because the Pashtun National Resistance has been kicking your American asses all over the place the past two weeks. how many of you pigs have come home in body bags? Has the Taliban every killed a single civilian American? nope, they did not. They only kill soldiers because they are freedoom figthers and soldiers, but your "soldiers" are murderers and babykillers.

fuck America
fuck americans

I am so blessed I live in a time where I witness the demise of the US empire. Love it!

Time to learn Chinese

Maury said...

"Has the Taliban every killed a single civilian American?"

They killed 3000 civilians on 9/11 Anonymouse. The Taliban and Al Qaida are one and the same. Crackhead Muslims trying to enter Paradise by murdering as many innocents as possible. Led by sociopathic drug lords making shit up as they go along. Mullah Omar and Osama bin Laden are no different from the drug lords of Columbia and Mexico. Petty little men with petty little drug empires.

Maury said...

Bin Laden served as a middleman between the Taliban and Arab drug smugglers for the UAE, Qatar, and Saudi Arabia, using commissions to fund his training camps. The sheiks flew in on private jets and military transport planes, touching down at the Kandahar airfield and other smaller airstrips, supposedly to hunt rare falcons. Those flights transported weapons and material to the Taliban and al Qaeda and flew heroin out. It was widely known these hunting teams brought lavish amounts of equipment including vehicles, rifles, and tents, which they left with the Taliban.



Bin Laden hijacked the state-run Ariana Airlines, turning it into a narco-terror charter service ferrying Islamic militants, weapons, cash, and heroin to the Emirates and Pakistan. Mounting concern led to the UN sanctioning the Taliban in late 2000, barring Ariana from flying internationally. The Taliban turned to Viktor Bout, the notorious Russian spy-turned-smuggler whose Sharjah-based air cargo empire served as a sort of FedEx to criminals, rebel groups, and banana republics. Between 1998 and 2001, Bout sold Taliban twelve air freighters and continued to fly weapons, spare aircraft parts, and other supplies into Afghanistan. Flights with narcotics went direct from Helmand to the UAE.

http://tinyurl.com/28atguf

Hooha said...

Anon who said;

fuck America
fuck americans


Boycott everything those fuckin Americans make, starting with your computer.

Put your money where your mouth is.

C.H. said...

Dolly's "outrage" over the crazy people on the message boards is pathetic...its like listening to a child rapist condemn a wife-beater.

Habis,

Yes, the Pashtun National Resistance continues to strike the Amreeki at their very heart. Why, just a few days ago one of their bravest warriors blew himself up at an "Al-Quds" rally in Quetta and slaughtered about 70 people (more than have been killed in the entire Israeli-Palestinian conflict this year). And today, they managed to set over 500 pounds of explosives inside of a colony housing the children of Pakistani policemen.

That's some heroic resisting you guys are doing, Habis.

Bruno said...

So!

I see that the little bitches that infest this blog have come out squealing the moment I post actual proof of Americans wanting to blast away at Iraqis. I have to note: the original question was not "are Americans want to kill Iraqis representative of all Americans?" but "who in America wants to bomb Iraqis?".

The distinction is important, because clearly there are Americans that want to kill Iraqis - any Iraqis - starting with the fine 'soldiers' that represented themselves on these videos. I guess throwing grenades at shepherds doesn't count? I suppose repeatedly expressing the desire to shoot little Iraqi kids throwing stones (little Iraqi kids who have more guts than an entire platoon of Amreeki dumbfuck soldiers, btw) doesn't count either?

The commenters on those videos are just the tip of the iceberg.

But it has to be noted that they are NOT representative of America as a whole.

There is a steady ~ 30% of Americans who don't have their heads up their asses, who don't assume they have the power of life and death over Iraqis, who were opposed against this war since the start.

THEY know what it means to be human.

They, unfortunately, are not represented on this blog.

Maury said...

"the moment I post actual proof of Americans wanting to blast away at Iraqis."

A dozen boneheads posting on youtube don't represent America anymore than you represent South Africa Bruno. Besides, as Memnon pointed out, most of those people you quoted weren't Americans anyway.

"Voodoomau5 is from the United Kingdom, as is Jesus07juice.

miggshawn and buttbuddy14 are Canadians and kstsfy is from Niger."

Bruno said...

Did you even watch the clips, son?

No, I guess you didn't.

Since AMERICAN SOLDIERS themselves make my point for me.

Sheesh, Maury, I know you're old, but try keep up sometimes.

Bruno said...

But, here's some good news! It seems like all that 'training' that the Americans pumped into the "Iraqi Army" has finally paid off and that Iraqi soldiers are shooting straight:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB20001424052748704358904575478063267272870.html

Well done, guys!

LOL

Bruno said...

Here's another clip of brave (LOL) marines shooting at passing cars in Ramadi:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stq1Gd3OnGk

Y'all can feel real proud now, y'hear?

Iraqi Mojo said...

I just confirmed that "miggshawn" is from Canada and "Voodoomau5" is from the UK. Thank you Memnon for pointing that out.

Bruno, maybe you should acknowledge you made a mistake here.

Bruno said...

Sure, as soon as you acknowledge that I was right - that there are Americans that want to kill Iraqis, regardless of whether they are civilians or not.

You do admit, mojo, that Americans throwing grenades at Iraqi shepherds is going to kill Iraqis?

You do admit, that the American soldiers expressing a desire to shoot Iraqi children throwing stones is an example of what Aton denied existed?

You do acknowledge that those American soldiers killing random passing Iraqi motorists is an example of this?

Let's hear what you have to say.

Bruno said...

American snipers killing Iraqis who pick up batteries or wires they find on the roadside:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgNInWQI-qU

Bruno said...

American patriot:

"Why don't we just nuke Iraq?
libs are always talking about how we need to finish this war well their is a way to finish a war and we did it in japan and it worked so why don't we just do the same thing with iraq and no more war -are you happy now liberals if their is no more iraq their is not more war!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sarah Palin/Ann Coulter 2012 (I'm not a sexist and I want a woman president -coulter, palin or michele bachman!)"

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091112100154AA5OkQR

Bruno said...

Another American patriot:

"Why dont we bomb iraq?
Why dont we just get as much soldiers and pedestrians out of iraq as we can and just nuke them to get the war over with im sick of all these terristes its getting pretty annoying so i want to hear you opinions?"

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091006195216AAHgO1S

Bruno said...

More American patriots:

"Why cant we just nuke iraq it would be just so much easier dont you agree?"

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=ArDDpGiCdQ9h.DIh2Qm08yfG7BR.;_ylv=3?qid=20090114110008AAuH2DP

Bruno said...

An extra American patriot:

"Should we just Nuke Iraq and tell Iran they'll be next if they don't stop dicking around?"

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=ApMGO_sccSiLQ9nowBfD8ojG7BR.;_ylv=3?qid=20071223081346AAFRQtC

Bruno said...

Could this be an American patriot?

"Nuke Iraq!?
I think we should Nuke Iraq Theres To Many Troops Being Killed! Or We Coild Just Take Troops Out Slowly!"

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AubVTT4mR08h5pzvrzbescojzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20070601102421AAWVtKa

Bruno said...

Another flag waver:

"Why can't we just nuke iraq and get it over with?
What's the point of having nukes if you don't use em? They killed Over 5,400 Americans and injured over 80,000. Why don't we just nuke em and win this war already?"

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=An287hLHHAir1NJ_vvOz4EwjzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20100622092633AAq4xYk

Bruno said...

Now, obviously, these are Americans who have sub-human intelligence. I'm pretty sure most Americans are more intelligent than this (although, that's not been proven yet).

But what is scary is that on the same comment page as the above moron, there was this comment, by somebody who obviously has more than two braincells to rub together:

"Speaking as a citizen of the US, who has all the nukes anyway, I think this is a perfectly valid question, and the reasons given by responders here NOT to use nuclear weapons fail to hold much merit in my humble opinion.
[...]
6. "The human suffering would be catastrophic." Unfortunately, this is true. The horrors of death by nuclear attack are well-documented. Many thousands of people would die immediately, but approximately 80% of the total deaths would be in the days and months following the attacks. To unleash this terror on a civilian population would be unethical, no matter the context. Not even in response to a direct attack should we ever use nuclear weapons against innocent civilian populations. HOWEVER, I defy any person to identify a single purely civilian population in Iraq or Iran (North Korea, maybe). In every instance, our "enemy" is inextricably intertwined with the "innocents" around them. The local populations are complicit in, and in many cases encourage and actively contribute to the activities of those who would kill or maim us. From a military standpoint, there are no civilians in these countries. The entire human population can be lumped into two categories: 'active enemy combatants', and 'enemy combatants-in-waiting'. Especially as the populations are subject to the constant brainwashing and anti-Western rhetoric of their leaders, they are increasingly likely to resist US authority."

Maury said...

Bruno, there are 350 MILLION Americans. The vast majority will never post a comment ANYWHERE on the web. The only thing these commenters represent is people with too much time on their hands. Besides, you can't possibly know these people are adults, or even American, for that matter. Stop pretending to be so damned gullible. We know you aren't that that stupid.

Then again, maybe you believe Dolly is a white female Muslim. Are you that gullible Bruno?

Iraqi Mojo said...

Yes there are Americans who want to kill Iraqis. But they do not represent America.

Bruno said...

[maury] "Besides, you can't possibly know these people are adults, or even American, for that matter. "

You mean, the American soldiers shooting at Iraqi motorists and throwing grenades at Iraqi herders and expressing a great desire to shoot Iraqi children ... are an Al Qaeda psyops creation?

WOW! Al Sahab has really stepped up its game, huh?

As for the commenters - of course they're American, possibly with one or two exceptions. We all know they are. The same way when my wife told me to look at the TV on 11 Sep, because somebody had crashed jets into the Towers - I told her straight off that its Al Qaeda in action. Don't have to be a genius.

Bruno said...

[mojo] Yes there are Americans who want to kill Iraqis."

Ah! Thank you very much. You might want to inform Aton and the gang.

[mojo] "But they do not represent America."

That was never my argument. However, I do believe that they represent a bigger slice of America than you would be willing to admit.

Bruno said...

[mojo] Yes there are Americans who want to kill Iraqis."

Ah! Thank you very much. You might want to inform Aton and the gang.

[mojo] "But they do not represent America."

That was never my argument. However, I do believe that they represent a bigger slice of America than you would be willing to admit.

Azzha said...

Someone give Bruno a fucking pat on the back.

A large portion of Americans do actively express their hate, and will actively tell people that they want the death of innocent Iraqis. And I use innocent, because just as we have civilians so do they. Many Americans will take that a step further. I remember my mother telling me not to wear my hijab outside because she was afraid people would hurt me.

I was 12 years old and she was right. People would get scared and angry, and other children wouldn't be allowed near me. It got so bad, that my teachers even treated me poorly, and I was forced to go to private school to stay safe and to be taught fairly. Even then I was treated differently out of fear, because my mother was white.

9/11 scared people, people, not christians. Just people. American muslims were terrified people would hurt them, and americans were so dammned scared that they were willing to hurt every muslim they saw to keep their families safe. In a way, the terrorist won that day. Not with that explosion or the death count, but with the suffocating growing fear that they instilled in all of us.

People need to stop associating Islam with terrorist radicals. Those actions of the insane should not reflect the rest of a group.

I grew up as a muslim, my family went defacto when my mother got divorced. I am now an agnostic. I volunteer at different shelters and charities whenever possible. I see the ugliest sides of people and the fallout from that ugliness.

I can vouch that most of the muslims that I've known have been purely good people. I've certainly never met with any of them that wanted any American dead. Perhaps yes, the people who kill their families and scratch those tragedies off as an accident, but never for an innocent.

9/11 was a tragedy for everyone in America. I know several muslims who lost family in the incident. Cousins and brothers lost under the rubble. Do you honestly think that there were no muslims to suffer for the actions of those psychos?

Violence against anyone who looks even remotely of color has gone up. Even people from places like india, or isreal have been getting more stress, simply because they resemble middle easterners.

Yes, generally any muslim you meet will tell you that they are a muslim first and an American second, but ask a Christian, or a Jew and they will generally say the same. It's the importance of faith over state. Will any Christian on here really admit that they hold their state over their faith in Jesus Christ?

Tomorrow should be about unity and acceptance. We should be able to band together as a people instead of throwing potshots at our own.

Azzha said...

Someone give Bruno a fucking pat on the back.

A large portion of Americans do actively express their hate, and will actively tell people that they want the death of innocent Iraqis. And I use innocent, because just as we have civilians so do they. Many Americans will take that a step further. I remember my mother telling me not to wear my hijab outside because she was afraid people would hurt me.

I was 12 years old and she was right. People would get scared and angry, and other children wouldn't be allowed near me. It got so bad, that my teachers even treated me poorly, and I was forced to go to private school to stay safe and to be taught fairly. Even then I was treated differently out of fear, because my mother was white.

Azha said...

9/11 scared people, people, not christians. Just people. American muslims were terrified people would hurt them, and americans were so dammned scared that they were willing to hurt every muslim they saw to keep their families safe.

In a way, the terrorist won that day. Not with that explosion or the death count, but with the suffocating growing fear that they instilled in all of us. People need to stop associating Islam with terrorist radicals. Those actions of the insane should not reflect the rest of a group. I grew up as a muslim, my family went defacto when my mother got divorced. I am now an agnostic. I volunteer at different shelters and charities whenever possible. I see the ugliest sides of people and the fallout from that ugliness. I can vouch that most of the muslims that I've known have been purely good people. I've certainly never met with any of them that wanted any American dead. Perhaps yes, the people who kill their families and scratch those tragedies off as an accident, but never for an innocent.

9/11 was a tragedy for everyone in America. I know several muslims who lost family in the incident. Cousins and brothers lost under the rubble. Do you honestly think that there were no muslims to suffer for the actions of those psychos? Violence against anyone who looks even remotely of color has gone up. Even people from places like india, or isreal have been getting more stress, simply because they resemble middle easterners.

Yes, generally any muslim you meet will tell you that they are a muslim first and an American second, but ask a Christian, or a Jew and they will generally say the same. It's the importance of faith over state. Will any Christian on here really admit that they hold their state over their faith in Jesus Christ?

Tomorrow should be about unity and acceptance. We should be able to band together as a people instead of throwing potshots at our own.

Azha said...

Wow, way to go aol. You manage yet again to make me look like a noob with your horrendous lagging abilities.

Aton said...

Azha, can you give one example of American citizens harassing Muslims? I remember a story when the media was trying to demonstrate how racist Americans were by staging a Muslim woman dropping some groceries on the floor to see if people would help her pick them up. After about twenty people, who all stopped to help the lady, they finally found a person who just walked by…they then had their story.
Just because you enjoy feeling like a victim, your feelings do not justify the ignorant, vial and murderous acts of radical Islam.

Aton said...

'Very spiritual' Muslim woman kills 2 in factory shooting...

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local-beat/Co-Worker-Calls-Alleged-Shooter-Very-Spiritual-102624529.html