Tuesday, November 08, 2011

Why is Iran jailing its students?

A few days ago I received emails from Amnesty International regarding the detention of students in Iran:

'Did you know you could be arrested in Iran for "insulting the president?"

That is what happened to Behareh Hedayat, a student leader, in 2009 -- and she is still in prison.

Since Iran's 2009 election, thousands of students and other peaceful protesters have been arrested by a repressive government with little tolerance for dissent. Individuals demanding political reform and human rights protections have been jailed and sometimes even tortured for their beliefs.'

and:

In Iran, students continue to face egregious forms of repression and human rights abuses, as the Iranian authorities attempt to exert control over students opposed to their policies. Those who dare speak out do so at great risk and with devastating consequences.

Majid Tavakkoli and Behareh Hedayat are two student leaders who were arrested after they participated in demonstrations calling for social and political reforms.

50 comments :

C.H. said...

Iranian students are some of the bravest and most heroic people I have ever met.

Anonymous said...

i think the Irani gov. have the right to do whatsoever to hold its ground against the U.S. and K.S.A

Iraqi Mojo said...

The Irani govt holds its ground against the US and KSA by jailing Iranian students?

Anonymous said...

in answer to your question no students would do such thing if they weren't fascinated by the american "culture" or what the media and movies show .

and why would the US gov. be so concerned about Iran if it wasn't for s3odia and the 3rab ( wahabia) ..

how come you'r a shi3i and u still talking abt a shi3i country ?

Aton said...

Yes, a religious Islamic theocracy with nuclear weapons…who would worry about that? LOL.

Iraqi Mojo said...

Iranian youth would not protest if they were not fascinated by American culture and movies? That might be true. If they were not allowed to watch foreign movies and learn how free Americans and Europeans are, maybe they would not protest as much. If all countries are run by theocracies, there would not be a standard, an example of how countries should be governed.

But I have a feeling that Iranians would protest anyway, even if they are not allowed to watch American movies or get on facebook.

Thank Allah we have America and Europe. They have shown that secular govt with freedom of speech and freedom of religion are key to democracy.

Where do you live, Anonymous?

Iraqi Mojo said...

Just because I am Shi3i does not mean I should overlook crimes by Shi3a.

Iraqi Mojo said...

'Twenty-one-year-old Iranian Farnoush has her own job but no longer her own telephone.

When her father looked at her text messages and discovered she had a boyfriend, he confiscated the cell phone, saying her behavior was not proper in an Islamic republic.

"You have no idea. It's the worst feeling, the pressure, when your father finds out you have a boyfriend," Farnoush said, while plucking a customer's eyebrows at a Tehran salon.'

Iraqi Mojo said...

The world is changing and the conservative Muslims don't want to allow their children, even their 21 year old children, to be free.

The Irani govt will be overthrown by Irani youth.

Anonymous said...

@aton, islamic theocracy ha? what about the christian theocracy when the US dropped a nuc. bomb on japan and killed at least 200 thousand human beings and same with hitler. have you ever heard of such thing in the Islamic history.. and please don't tell me abt usama bin ladin cuz he is a Saudi and the best ally in mid east for the US is Saudia arabia ..

Anonymous said...

@mojo, have you ever lived in iran or in the mid east, nope... so you cant just listen to media.

and you really if care that much about freedom why don't look at what is going on in Bahrain,, they don't need no cellphones or freedom any more they just wanna live their life .. where is the US and Europe from that ... back to KSA, because the protesters are shi3a and ksa don't want no shi3a in this world so the US is not saying nothing..

look at syria, i hate the system in their (ba3th) but i also hate how is the US throwing the weapons thingy in their again..

why the hell on the world the US is involved in every single action and decision in the mid east?

i like when you say you wanna see justice in this world and you support the ppl that taking out the justice out of it.

by the way i live in mash-had, Iran

Aton said...

Yes, everybody in the U.S. loves the Saudis! LOL. And America is a Christian theocracy. LOL. After we defeated the unholy alliance between the Nazi Regime and Imperial Japan, both nations joined the family of democracies as free independent countries. Only a fool would cheer the proliferation of nuclear weapons in the Middle East. You are just that, a fool.

Aton said...

P.S. I know more Iranians than you, and why they love their country, they hate there government. If you had even a scant trace of decency within the nugget between your ears, you would side with the Iranian youth who want to live in peace in the brotherhood of free democracies. Human liberty is a precious fragile concept defended by civilian patriots. Your support for oligarchy, theocracy, authoritarianism, nuclear proliferation and death is but a reflection of an ugly, soulless indoctrinated tool.

Iraqi Mojo said...

Anonymous Irani, I lived in Baghdad for two years of Saddam's rule. I know what political repression is like. I know that a significant percentage of Muslims actually support their theocracies and their backward ways. I know that a significant percentage of Irani youth want change. They are sick of the Ayatollahs.

The article quoted in this post was published by Amnesty International, which is not a media outlet.

I have written many posts about KSA and Bahrain.

Iraqi Mojo said...

Bahrainis are educated, refuse to accept despotism

Iranians are the same way. When the Iranian youth protested against the Shah, the despot stepped down.

When the Iranian youth protest against the Ayatollahs, the youth are jailed. Khamenei is the new despot.

Iraqi Mojo said...

I received this from Amnesty International in July:

"Recently, Amnesty International obtained the secret draft of a proposed anti-terrorism law in Saudi Arabia. We were stunned by its contents.

We had no choice but to alert you, our supporters, of its draconian nature.

Last Friday, we posted our analysis of this law to our international website, as well as the law itself in English and Arabic. By Saturday, that website had been blocked all across Saudi Arabia.

It seems Saudi authorities didn't want you to know that a person could be jailed for a minimum of 10 years for "questioning the integrity" of the king. They didn't want you to find out about all those peaceful activists who could be held in detention indefinitely under the vague definition of "terrorist crimes".

The Saudi Arabian government may not want you to know these awful truths, but we do!"

C.H. said...

"and you really if care that much about freedom why don't look at what is going on in Bahrain"


Why don't YOU look at what's happening in Iran? The IRI executes more people per capita than any other society on earth. Khamenei and his ugly puppet, Bashar Assad, have caused far more destruction to their own people than the Khalifa Kingdom has, had, and ever will to theirs.

I don't understand why scum like you values the lives of Bahrainis more than Iranians. Is it because you feel the former are more religious...and therefore more worthy of your deranged sympathy?

C.H. said...

"in answer to your question no students would do such thing if they weren't fascinated by the american "culture" or what the media and movies show"


Should female Iranian students question their government's desire to see them wearing a tent, better known as a "chador"?

C.H. said...

Anon,

If you really are from Mashhad...I cannot wait to see when you and all your fundamentalist nutcases can be replaced by the the heroic students who are fighting for legitimate rights.

You know what? If 50 percent of Iran's government were made up of women, I think Iran could become one of the most successful countries in the world. You should encourage the backwards, bearded old fools who hate them to step aside.

Iranian women very intelligent...and that probably scares you, doesn't it? :)

Anonymous said...

hahahahahahahha. ima give yall some time and we shall see :D

Anonymous said...

C.H, u punk, ur a coward and fool. If u cared about "Iranian students" so much, why do YOU turn a blind eye to Palestinian students shouting at the top of their lungs for freedom.

Your a hypocrite, just another person with an agenda.

Secondly, if yo u call the chador a "tent", what do you call a bikini? Go ask Mojo what sharmoota means

Anonymous said...

And to the other anonymous, I'm a sunni Muslim Arab, and I support Iran 100%, they make us Muslims proud.

It pains C.H to see a strong muslim country capable of producing its own weapons, capable of producing nuclear weapons. Hold your head up high. The only way iran should give up nuclear weapons is if America (the only nation that used them killing 200,000 innocent civilians) gives them up too.

C.H. said...

What pains CH is seeing the most capable and intelligent members of Iranian society repressed by delusional fundamentalists. Do you think it would be a bad thing for Iranian women to have more say? I'd like to see one of them as president.

The problem with Iran is the clerics, not nuclear weapons/energy.

"they make us Muslims proud."

That's really embarrassing...

C.H. said...

"why do YOU turn a blind eye to Palestinian students shouting at the top of their lungs for freedom."


I don't...My best friend lives in IRAN, not Palestine.

Why do Muslim countries like Turkey send "aid flotillas" to Gaza but pretend that millions of starving Muslims in Sudan don't exist?

C.H. said...

"if yo u call the chador a "tent", what do you call a bikini?"

Well its definitely not a tent :D

A bikini would be something that a woman chooses to wear, a chador, hijab, or burqa is something that is often forced by a government/repressive family.

Anonymous said...

ch please memories this conversation cuz one ull be laughing at ur self

Anonymous said...

c.h,

palestinian tenageers have been longing for freedom for more than 60 years, do u care to even notice? Instead, u support the apartheid state. Your a phony.

Secondly, don't ASS-ssume or you will make an ASS out of yourself. For example, my sisters wear hijab and CHOOSE to wear it. There are millions of Muslim women like them around the world who choose to wear hijab, and they will not have it any other way

Anonymous said...

"Why do Muslim countries like Turkey send "aid flotillas" to Gaza but pretend that millions of starving Muslims in Sudan don't exist?"

Actually, Turkey has given millions to africans in aid, read this on Somalia:

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2011/08/20118288361981885.html

Muhannad said...
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Muhannad said...

"In the midst of all the dust and poor security measures, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has been the only leader to visit Somalia together with his crowded delegation of Turkish politicians, celebrities, journalists and representatives of aid organisations."

Interesting.

C.H. said...

Mojo, Anon,

There's a difference...Somalia is being ravaged by a famine. Sudan is being ravaged by a genocidal dictator who Erdogan sees as a good Muslim. He's also denied that genocide is taking place in the country, despite the fact that millions have died...outstripping the work of mother nature further south.

Khamenei also has given money to Somalia...yet he continues to defend Omar Al-Bashir and maintain warm relations with him.

C.H. said...

"There are millions of Muslim women like them around the world who choose to wear hijab, and they will not have it any other way"


Good for them. There's also millions who DON'T want to wear it. How about your sisters and all the other religious Muslims wear it, and the governments of Iran and Saudi Arabia leave those who don't want to wear it alone? Sound fair?

This way, your sisters can follow their belief..and my friend can follow hers.

Anonymous said...

c.h,

As usual, your a dumb yankee, just like the majority of Americans are. You don't realize the consequence of your do whatever, whenever, wherever mindset. Yankee, I have some fun facts for you that relates to Modesty and some real results of the lack no laws enforcing it:


in the U.S over 40% of all kids are born bastards?

Every 2 minutes, someone in the U.S. is sexually assaulted.


One in five people in the United States has an STD.

Two-thirds of all STDs occur in people 25 years of age or younger.

One in four new STD infections occur in teenagers.


-In the U.S., 7 in 10 women who had sex before age 14, and 6 in 10 of those who had sex before age 15 report having had sex involuntarily. (Facts in Brief: Teen Sex and Pregnancy, The Alan Guttmacher Institute, New York, 1996).


-Nationally, one-quarter of 15 year old females and less than 30% of 15 year old males have had sex, compared with 66% of 18 year old females, and 68% of 18 year old males who have had sexual intercourse. (A Statistical Portrait of Adolescent Sex, Contraception, and Childbearing, National Campaign to Prevent Teen Pregnancy, Washington, DC, 1998).


Thats enough statistics for now. In short, NO THANK YOU. You can keep your western morality (see statistics above) and muslims can keep their laws on morality. I will be happy to enforce making women wear "tents" rather than pieces of string.

Anonymous said...

C.H,

By the way you crack me up. Its ALL about the children, right? Common man, your not fooling me, u dont give a fuck about children, if you did you would be supporting Palestinian children. But instead you SUPPORT the illegal genocidal apartheid state. All you have is an agenda, your a stupid yank that needs to be put back in his place every once in a while.

C.H. said...

"u dont give a fuck about children, if you did you would be supporting Palestinian children."


I suppose, on a subconscious level, my work in South Asia and my current work in Mexico to teach English and donate supplies to children can all be traced back to Israel. Are you happy now? :D


"I will be happy to enforce making women wear "tents" rather than pieces of string."

How about you remove yourself from the situation altogether and let the women manage themselves? You don't need to use the US as a model...Iranian women are, at least the way I see, far more intelligent than American and western women. They are prettier too :)

If you want Iran to become a strong country that inspires the world, retire the clerics and give the more intelligent section a chance to run things. Its too bad you want to fight this.

C.H. said...

Oh, and I don't think women should be forced to wear pieces of string either...anyone who forces a woman to do anything deserves nothing short of a violent end.

"Clubs" in America and here in Mexico can be as revolting and evil as Khamenei and the Saudi clerics.

Anonymous said...

c.h read my post above on the consequences of no morality laws.

Secondly, You just exposed yourself to be a born again, I knew it all along!

"I suppose, on a subconscious level, my work in South Asia and my current work in Mexico to teach English and donate supplies to children can all be traced back to Israel."

NOW you have exposed your agenda, finally! You can deny all you want, but I know exactly what you mean by this comment.

C.H. said...

"NOW you have exposed your agenda, finally! You can deny all you want, but I know exactly what you mean by this comment."


Wow...I gave you too much credit when I wrote my sarcasm above. All you have exposed is how dumb you are. If you are the anon from Mashhad, please step away from the progress of Iranian women...do it for your country, please.

Anonymous said...

your a bible thumper arent u?

Anonymous said...

why else would u support isra-hell 100%, right or wrong? U must be a born again bible thumper

C.H. said...

"your a bible thumper arent u?"

Not even remotely close. If I had to pick an organized religion to follow, I'd probably end up with Buddhism.

Anonymous said...

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/oct/27/iran-already-has-nuclear-weapons/

Anonymous said...

c.h,

what then, explains your support of the apartheid state?

60 years of slaughtering the palestinians and forcing them out of their homes, yet your support for isra-hell is 100%

Aton said...

Hey dip shit,
America has been trying to negotiate peace between the two parties for many decades. The Palestinians and the Israelis treat each other like animals. Look at you, you have been indoctrinated with Arab hate your whole life. You sound like a madman with every sentence you write, but to a fool like you it seems normal. You are the problem….

Anonymous said...

excuse me? U call ME dipshit? the white man doesn't even take off his shoes before he enters my house. pigs

Anonymous said...

anton,

Why dont you put your money where your mouth is. At least debate me instead of being a cowardly bitch

Aton said...

Well, 3arab Jarab places bombs in his shoes and underwear, when he rides on our planes. Cockroaches.

Iraqi Mojo said...

'Israeli Defence Minister Ehud Barak on Sunday hailed the deadly munitions blast at a base of Iran’s elite Revolutionary Guards and hoped for more such incidents.

“I don’t know the extent of the explosion,” he told military radio, asked about the incident. “But it would be desirable if they multiply.”

Iran said earlier that a senior general who pioneered an artillery and missile unit was among the 17 Guards reported killed in Saturday’s blast at Bid Ganeh, near the town of Malard on the western outskirts of Tehran.'

Iraqi Mojo said...

'Early excitement induced by the arrival of the Arab spring has recently been dampened by the emergence of Islamist parties as key beneficiaries. With Ennahda taking the lion's share of the votes in Tunisia and the Muslim Brotherhood expected to do the same in Egypt, many are beginning to ask questions about the direction in which the region is heading.

However, success for traditional and well organised Islamist parties does not necessarily translate into success for Islamism. What we are really witnessing is the emergence of post-Islamism in the Arab world. Post-Islamism is the position that an increasing number of the more moderate Islamist parties are arriving at after being exposed to the reality of politics.

The AKP in Turkey paved the way for this by demonstrating, in practice, how parties rooted in Islamist ideology are only embraced by the masses when they shed dogma and idealism in favour of pragmatism and compromise. There are early indications that Ennahda in Tunisia is going down this path with the Brotherhood in Egypt not too far behind. Ennahda has already stated that it won't seek to ban alcohol or impose a version of Islamic banking.

Post-Islamist parties tend to retain an emotional attachment to faith and seek to create a cultural shift towards Islamic principles (as defined by them) rather than imposing a prefabricated political model deemed to be an Islamic one. In other words, they still envisage a society where Islam guides public policy but without dictating it in a dogmatic and dictatorial fashion. Post-Islamists are Islamists mugged by reality.'

David All said...

Mojo, the Iranian students are very brave indeed. I pray that the Arab Spring may soon bloom in Iran. Interesting that explosion in Iran. My guess is that it was accidential, but who knows. Hope you are right that the Islamist parties will have to moderate their beliefs if they hope to gain and keep power.

OT, but related: The Arab Spring may be reaching the Palestinians. "Palestinian 'Freedom Riders' arrested on bus to Jerusalem" at http://ca.news.yahoo.com/palestinian-freedom-riders-arrested-bus-jerusalem-190000811.html

Some Palestinians have finally realized they are much more likely to achieve nationhood through nonviolent demonstrations then through suicide bombing.