tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36279451.post4631917690938107249..comments2023-10-25T08:34:59.128-07:00Comments on Iraqi <i>American</i> Mojo: Sarah Palin steps in shit againIraqi Mojohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14348791832474839472noreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36279451.post-28802041050395907742011-01-14T09:19:58.359-08:002011-01-14T09:19:58.359-08:00George W. Bush finally overthrew the dictator, the...George W. Bush finally overthrew the dictator, the mass murderer of Iraqis. Did you expect me to oppose that position?Iraqi Mojohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14348791832474839472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36279451.post-47742274694775479582011-01-14T09:18:42.305-08:002011-01-14T09:18:42.305-08:00What is Palin's position on Iraq? I don't ...What is Palin's position on Iraq? I don't even know. <br /><br />In June 2009 I wrote about Obama's speech: 'I liked hearing him say that he believes the Iraqis are ultimately better off without Saddam's tyranny: "unlike Afghanistan, Iraq was a war of choice that provoked strong differences in my country and around the world. Although I believe that the Iraqi people are ultimately <a href="http://iraqimojo.blogspot.com/2009/06/obama-iraqis-better-off-without-saddam.html" rel="nofollow">better off</a> without the tyranny of Saddam Hussein, I also believe that events in Iraq have reminded America of the need to use diplomacy and build international consensus to resolve our problems whenever possible." 'Iraqi Mojohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14348791832474839472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36279451.post-87280118255104175792011-01-14T08:18:29.438-08:002011-01-14T08:18:29.438-08:00"Meaning: people like Harry Reid and Barak Ob..."Meaning: people like Harry Reid and Barak Obama are not zealous about "winning" in Iraq."<br /><br />The war in Iraq is already won. There's a democracy in Iraq. Fom now on, Iraq will be what the majority of it's people decide it will be. Iraq is not led by your precious fascist regime anymore that is a constant threat to its neighbors. The Iraqi government is not harboring and coordinating fighters going to Afghanistan and other places to fight against agents of Liberty. AQI and the Resistance continue to nihilistically murder people going to mosque, but the violence is no longer strategic with a realizable goal in mind. It's just fools who think it's a free ticket to heaven. That's a problem with Islam in the Middle East but it's not a problem specific to Iraq. It's over.<br /><br />I agree you about Reid's and Obama's devotion to victory, but fortunately for Iraq, Bush and Maliki set everything on rails before President Obama came to office.CMAR IInoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36279451.post-59974251400860573702011-01-14T05:57:51.249-08:002011-01-14T05:57:51.249-08:00Čmar said:
☼ In America EVERYBODY knows its metaph...Čmar said:<br />☼ In America EVERYBODY knows its metaphor. It is not a sign of the degraded tone of political discourse in the US. There's NO evidence that ANYONE has EVER been mistaken about the militaristic language ☼<br /><br />Please, man. America was a violent society to begin with, but when you add economic trouble and a perception of humiliation, these primitive people will quickly resort to weapons. <br>Dollyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16896617620139110214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36279451.post-65176433835408325382011-01-14T05:53:42.646-08:002011-01-14T05:53:42.646-08:00Mojo, you may dislike people like Palin and the Te...Mojo, you may dislike people like Palin and the Tea Baggers, and you may prefer more moderate Americans like the Obama camp.<br />However: if you think about it, the Palinites are more supportive of your Iraqi position.<br /><br />Meaning: people like Harry Reid and Barak Obama are not zealous about "winning" in Iraq.<br /><br />The people who most support your narrative on Iraq, are exactly Palin and her crew.<br /><br />That should really tell you something.<br /><br />The stupidity of the rural American, which even you recognize in your bashing of these Tea Bagger losers, cannot be divorced from your incorrect stance on Iraq.<br>Dollyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16896617620139110214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36279451.post-11048237182942918162011-01-13T21:07:50.433-08:002011-01-13T21:07:50.433-08:00Let me put it this way: What if everyone knew wher...Let me put it this way: What if everyone knew where to find you and I went all over the Internet and told credulous audiences that you had caused the deaths of Iraqi children. And when you called me on it I said "Aw, did I hurt your feelings? I shouldn't have done that but you need to tone down your feisty rhetoric towards good Muslims. Afterall you posted something and three months later someone blew himself up."CMAR IInoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36279451.post-32859157185904030172011-01-13T17:32:55.755-08:002011-01-13T17:32:55.755-08:00Did the Daily Kos make Sarah Palin feel bad? That...Did the Daily Kos make Sarah Palin feel bad? That's too bad. They shouldn't have accused her of culpability in the Tucson shooting. But the criticism of her use and defense of the crosshairs map is legitimate. It doesn't matter that a Democrat put crosshairs on his opponent - that was stupid too, but we didn't hear about it because JD Hayworth was not shot in the head. Harry Mitchell disappeared from the political scene, thankfully, and Sarah Palin will likely follow in Harry's footsteps if she continues to step in shit.Iraqi Mojohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14348791832474839472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36279451.post-86807004655683174372011-01-13T16:48:44.020-08:002011-01-13T16:48:44.020-08:00Mojo,
First of all, Palin's ad people didn...Mojo,<br /><br />First of all, Palin's ad people didn't put cross-hairs on people, and the DCCC didn't put bulls-eyes on people. They put them on states. <br /><br />Secondly, Sadr and Putin don't NEED to put cross-hairs on their opponents. They just need to denounce them and the cross-hairs are assumed. This is America. We're blessed in that way. <br /><br />The fact that a Democratic candidate for Congress in Phoenix could put a cross-hairs over a picture of his Republican candidate in 2006 and the Republican candidate didn't hire a team of body guards--and that a Democratic candidate for governor in West Virginia can have an ad where he is shooting a weapon and then denounce his opponent and no one feels threatened-- this is evidence of the civility of the American people. In Iraq, they don't talk about it. They do it. <br /><br />In America EVERYBODY knows its metaphor. It is not a sign of the degraded tone of political discourse in the US. There's NO evidence that ANYONE has EVER been mistaken about the militaristic language used in campaigns being metaphor. <b>The guy in AZ was NOT influenced by any Democratic or Palin ads or any other heated rhetoric.</b> And no number of times that someone mentions the Palin ad and the AZ shooting in the same paragraph will change that. There is no evidence of a problem here.<br /><br />On the other hand, when The Daily Kos and Paul Krugman and all the other bloggers SAY or strongly IMPLY that Palin is culpable in the murder of a 9 year old girl, <b>that's not metaphor</b> and it is not unreasonable that it could lead to a violent attack against Palin EVEN THOUGH SHE DID NOTHING WRONG AND HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THESE KILLINGS-----NOT EVEN INDIRECTLY.<br /><br />The persistant irrational drawing of a connection between Palin and the AZ murders is the TRUE lack of civility in politics.CMAR IInoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36279451.post-70060778981090254052011-01-13T15:42:15.027-08:002011-01-13T15:42:15.027-08:00What if Vladimir Putin put crosshairs on his polit...What if Vladimir Putin put crosshairs on his political opponents? Would Republicans not condemn it?Iraqi Mojohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14348791832474839472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36279451.post-82151047843892784872011-01-13T15:35:17.317-08:002011-01-13T15:35:17.317-08:00"I might ask you, Mojo, who was Giffords unti..."I might ask you, Mojo, who was Giffords until last Saturday?"<br /><br />Until Saturday I didn't know who Gabrielle Giffords is. But I knew who Sarah Palin is.Iraqi Mojohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14348791832474839472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36279451.post-41703520824355936502011-01-13T15:30:10.517-08:002011-01-13T15:30:10.517-08:00Guys, let's say Muqtada al Sadr embraces polit...Guys, let's say Muqtada al Sadr embraces politics, and let's say he sets up a website and on it he displays a map of Iraq with gun scope crosshairs over the districts represented by his political opponents in Parliament, along with the names of those opponents. Would that be appropriate? What if one of his political opponents gets shot? Would you say that's the violent nature of Muqtada al Sadr or would you say that's a result of the violent gun culture of Iraq? Or would you defend him?Iraqi Mojohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14348791832474839472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36279451.post-77196031445064707542011-01-13T15:25:42.191-08:002011-01-13T15:25:42.191-08:00She's had her 15 minutes of fame. Once she get...She's had her 15 minutes of fame. Once she gets a bit of grey, she'll just be another Ann Richards. Having Ann Richards speak at the Democratic Convention pretty much cinched the primary for Bush. Nobody wants to hear a shrill old nag carry on like that.Mauryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08155413912838430846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36279451.post-73152093189524539792011-01-13T13:37:55.964-08:002011-01-13T13:37:55.964-08:00If the Republicans had a clue, they would beg her ...If the Republicans had a clue, they would beg her to take Michael Steele's seat as head of the RNC. She would haul in a mountain of cash for them. But, now, she might not take the job. She might have gotten to big for the job.CMAR IInoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36279451.post-81533970424303725302011-01-13T13:28:27.668-08:002011-01-13T13:28:27.668-08:00CMAR,
I feel the same way. I'm not really a f...CMAR,<br /><br />I feel the same way. I'm not really a fan of Palin and I don't think I would vote for her for president (unless the only alternative was Ron Paul). However, the more I hear people attack her with vile accusations, the more I want to defend her, as I did on my own blog last night.C.H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02870558780736700523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36279451.post-22180221268477536952011-01-13T13:14:22.643-08:002011-01-13T13:14:22.643-08:00Mitchell is a Democrat congressman of Phoenix AZ w...Mitchell is a Democrat congressman of Phoenix AZ who defeated JD Hayworth in 2006 running that ad with money from the DCCC. He defeated Hayworth and served two terms. Perhaps you've heard of the DCCC?<br /><br />I might ask you, Mojo, who was Giffords until last Saturday?CMAR IInoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36279451.post-49151705145631919252011-01-13T13:05:37.412-08:002011-01-13T13:05:37.412-08:00I don't think she's going to run for Presi...I don't think she's going to run for President, and she's not my 1st, 2nd, or 3rd choice for President, but not because I believe she's dumb. Anyone who thinks she's dumb should have to explain how that dummy keeps putting our "genius" president on his heels from her Facebook page. And before McCain picked her, I heard her rattle on at a deep level on Energy policy, land management, and federal subsidies to states.<br /><br />But do I <b>like</b> her because 1) she comes off as fundamentally nice, decent, and practical. I can practically smell the soap through the TV screen. And 2) I like her because the hatred of those who hate her and condescend toward her has made them so vile.CMAR IInoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36279451.post-52938327704740151532011-01-13T13:03:45.200-08:002011-01-13T13:03:45.200-08:00"Democrat Harry Mitchell Places Opponent [JD ..."Democrat Harry Mitchell Places Opponent [JD Hayworth] in <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqB4tyvxWKA" rel="nofollow">Crosshairs</a>"<br /><br />Who is Harry Mitchell? Is he a leader? And who is JD Hayworth?Iraqi Mojohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14348791832474839472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36279451.post-1150770992780410082011-01-13T13:01:14.564-08:002011-01-13T13:01:14.564-08:00We should have cloned Reagan. Or Kennedy. Or both,...We should have cloned Reagan. Or Kennedy. Or both, and let them take turns.Mauryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08155413912838430846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36279451.post-84898686950955506262011-01-13T12:46:03.080-08:002011-01-13T12:46:03.080-08:00Why would the medi bring up THAT crosshairs ad CMA...Why would the medi bring up THAT crosshairs ad CMAR? Sure, it was Arizona. But, it wasn't Palin who ran the ad. Heck, it wasn't even a Republican. <br /><br />Democrats don't contribute to toxic political discourse. Bush got nothing but respect from that side of the aisle. LOL.Mauryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08155413912838430846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36279451.post-44792888333670530482011-01-13T12:42:43.880-08:002011-01-13T12:42:43.880-08:00She is quite pretty. I think that's why so man...She is quite pretty. I think that's why so many men like her.Iraqi Mojohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14348791832474839472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36279451.post-51556384844551856802011-01-13T12:41:54.733-08:002011-01-13T12:41:54.733-08:00Nobody is culpable except the shooter. It is simpl...Nobody is culpable except the shooter. It is simply wrong, in my view, to put gun scope crosshairs on your political opponent. Gun metaphors should not be used in politics, but that's just my opinion. They are free to continue to use crosshairs and say they should 'reload' - their freedom to do that will not be taken from them.Iraqi Mojohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14348791832474839472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36279451.post-79373362330324577402011-01-13T12:36:25.513-08:002011-01-13T12:36:25.513-08:00CMAR might be onto something. Palin might be the d...CMAR might be onto something. Palin might be the dingiest politician ever. The idea she could've been a heartbeat from the Presidency, with an 80-something McCain in the oval office, is scary as hell. But, she's also the sexiest politician I can remember. Maybe that's why my wife hates her so much. <br /><br />I bet a lot of women would rather someone who looks like they'd rather claw a man's eyes out be the first woman President. That would be Hillary. I'm kind of hoping we eventually get someone with Sarah's looks and Hillary's brain. If she's from a third party we'll hit the trifecta.Mauryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08155413912838430846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36279451.post-3795090702333081942011-01-13T12:27:38.009-08:002011-01-13T12:27:38.009-08:00Umm...that juxtaposition is the dishonesty I'm...Umm...that juxtaposition is the dishonesty I'm talking about. Those bulls-eye and cross-hair ads have been going on for 30 years. And we KNOW the AZ shooter was not influenced by either of them.<br /><br />It's irrelevant. Why is Palin culpable, and not the DCCC not culpable? Why does only Palin have to explain herself and not the President saying "If they bring a knife. We'll bring a gun."<br /><br /><a href="http://www.intellectualconservative.com/2011/01/09/sarah-palin-democrats-forget-they-put-jd-hayworth-in-crosshairs/" rel="nofollow">How about this ad?</a><br /><br />Mojo, don't take this personally, cause I'm 'just saying': This is the sort of selective presentation and emphasis of facts and guilt that Riverbend used to use to IMPLY that things were so much better under Saddam. The entire line of reasoning is bogus.CMAR IInoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36279451.post-4409211464314928222011-01-13T11:41:46.655-08:002011-01-13T11:41:46.655-08:00I find it disturbing that a prominent politician u...I find it disturbing that a prominent politician uses crosshairs to aim at her political opponents. I just learned about the crosshairs map over the weekend. It would have been disturbing to see before the shooting. It was especially disturbing to see on Saturday, after the shootings. It's still disturbing to see. <br /><br />It's disturbing whether a Democrat does it or a Republican does it.Iraqi Mojohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14348791832474839472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36279451.post-71286438139534795152011-01-13T11:01:10.584-08:002011-01-13T11:01:10.584-08:00Okay, Mojo, it seems to me that the people determi...Okay, Mojo, it seems to me that the people determined to hate Palin are immune to reason. <br /><br />I'm intrigued that you are so distressed by an ad that almost no one saw, one that is not uncommon in every election cycle, but you are not horrified by the mentality of the people who hate Palin.<br /><br />I have a private theory that the people energized to find something terrible about everything...anything...Palin does are actually quite attracted to her as a woman and a mother, wish that she were their girlfriend and mother, and they hate that about themselves because they disagree with her politically, and so direct that hatred toward her.<br /><br />You remember Bush Derangement Syndrome?CMAR IInoreply@blogger.com